[ale] Fair Use question

Jerald Sheets questy at gmail.com
Thu Oct 13 09:04:28 EDT 2022


Seconding Bob here.  As a copyright holder, I would be livid and would likely sue.

I’m a licensed minister here locally, and would be happy to partner with you in educating first your pastor and then this individual.  What they are doing is illegal and opens up the church to litigation.

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> On Oct 9, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Bob Toxen via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
> NO to all!  Your teacher is violating Federal law and could be fined
> $250,000.
> 
> That is why each student must purchase his own copy and the teacher
> says "Turn to page 24."
> 
> COPYright is just that.
> 
> Fair Use is very limited.  VERY short excerpts, a paragraph or two,
> may be used for certain purposes.
> 
> I suggest that you talk to church officials and alert them to
> the teacher's crime that could cause the fines to be inflicted
> against the church.
> 
> Copyright owners occasionally come down very hard on violators.
> 
> Bob Toxen
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>> On Sun, Oct 09, 2022 at 02:19:19PM -0400, David Jackson via Ale wrote:
>> I'm taking a class at church that is using a $15 textbook.  There's also a
>> $15 workbook that the teacher is making xerox copies of the required pages
>> for each lesson for our classroom discussion.  I bought another copy from
>> the publishers that gives a copy of the text, workbook, and a year's online
>> access to both and also to educational movies for each lesson.
>> 
>> 1. Is it Fair Use to the teacher to make xerox copies of the workbook each
>> week?
>> 
>> 2. Is it Fair Use for me to make weekly PDFs of the online content if only
>> for my own use?  How about for sharing with other class members?
>> 
>> 3. Is it Fair Use for me to make copies of the movies for a year?  What
>> about keeping copies beyond the year?
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, this is really small potatoes here I know, but basically the teacher
>> called me a criminal, I thought she was wrong, and after a little googling,
>> now I'm not sure.  So are any of us in this class breaking the Fair Use
>> clause in this class?
>> 
>> TIA!
>> 
>> Dave
> 
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