[ale] Outdoor Wifi - Water - The missing Detail?

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Fri Jul 2 12:45:36 EDT 2021


Yeah, plenty of documentation about the Fresnel Zone, interference
caused by intrusions into the Fresnel Zone, and calculators for finding
various performance metrics all over the innertubes. Every telecom
products or service company.

Here's a fun online calculator from Ubiquiti that uses Google Maps and
graphically calculates the Fresnel Zone based on local terrain and the
particular device(s) you're using. Other than registering, usage is
free.  There are better ones online that also collect all of the local
terrain and topology from buildings, trees, etc. but those are for a
fee.  There's a few others that are basic online calculators that will
produce a KML file to import into Google Earth for visualization but the
Ubiquiti one has live feedback on the map as you point at locations on
the Fresnel Zone diagram at the bottom. For probably the next best one
this calculator generates the KML file.
http://www.radiofresnel.com/


I own no stock or other financial interests in Ubiquiti, they just
happen to have cleaner interfaces and tools as you would expect from
former Apple employees.


On 2021-07-02 07:26, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
> For our general edification, here is TP-Link's surprisingly informative
> explanation.  I've never used their equipment, but I am coming to like
> their documentation.
> 
>        "If there are some obstacles during the way, you'd better install
> the two CPEs higher than them.
>         https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/907/
>         If it's impossible to bypass the trees and tent, the wireless
> signal maybe unstable and weak at the client side."
> 
> On 2021-07-02 08:14, Phil Turmel via Ale wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Complaining about reality is and always will be popular.  But don't
>> let it turn into *denying* reality.
>>
>> On 7/2/21 12:54 AM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
>>> Yes, that's pretty much what the Nanostations do.
>>>
>>> No matter who you chose to provide the equipment let me just offer you
>>> this one bit of critical info:
>>>
>>> *Stop trying to cheat physics.*
>>>
>>> Put your APs up on poles.  No "IF we mount them", just do it.  However
>>> you have to do it even if you just strap poles to ladders, on tripods on
>>> the roof, whatever.  If you do this from the beginning and get them up
>>> in the clear you will have relatively smooth operation.  If you try to
>>> cheat and have obstacles in the way of the beam, you will have headaches
>>> and maybe pitchforks.
>>>
>>> If you're being asked to do this then declare that pole mounts shall be
>>> used and end the discussion.  If they don't like it, walk out and let
>>> them figure it out for themselves.
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