[ale] Outdoor Wifi - Water - The missing Detail?

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Fri Jul 2 13:10:56 EDT 2021


I vote for centerline of transmitter above head high and below tent roof.

Unless the tent roof is metal foil the attenuation is slight.

Be sure to set SID to something like 'gxvju3-7-nsatest3' and lock access to only allowed devices. 

On July 2, 2021 12:45:36 PM EDT, Alex Carver via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>Yeah, plenty of documentation about the Fresnel Zone, interference
>caused by intrusions into the Fresnel Zone, and calculators for finding
>various performance metrics all over the innertubes. Every telecom
>products or service company.
>
>Here's a fun online calculator from Ubiquiti that uses Google Maps and
>graphically calculates the Fresnel Zone based on local terrain and the
>particular device(s) you're using. Other than registering, usage is
>free.  There are better ones online that also collect all of the local
>terrain and topology from buildings, trees, etc. but those are for a
>fee.  There's a few others that are basic online calculators that will
>produce a KML file to import into Google Earth for visualization but
>the
>Ubiquiti one has live feedback on the map as you point at locations on
>the Fresnel Zone diagram at the bottom. For probably the next best one
>this calculator generates the KML file.
>http://www.radiofresnel.com/
>
>
>I own no stock or other financial interests in Ubiquiti, they just
>happen to have cleaner interfaces and tools as you would expect from
>former Apple employees.
>
>
>On 2021-07-02 07:26, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
>> For our general edification, here is TP-Link's surprisingly
>informative
>> explanation.  I've never used their equipment, but I am coming to
>like
>> their documentation.
>> 
>>        "If there are some obstacles during the way, you'd better
>install
>> the two CPEs higher than them.
>>         https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/907/
>>         If it's impossible to bypass the trees and tent, the wireless
>> signal maybe unstable and weak at the client side."
>> 
>> On 2021-07-02 08:14, Phil Turmel via Ale wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Complaining about reality is and always will be popular.  But don't
>>> let it turn into *denying* reality.
>>>
>>> On 7/2/21 12:54 AM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
>>>> Yes, that's pretty much what the Nanostations do.
>>>>
>>>> No matter who you chose to provide the equipment let me just offer
>you
>>>> this one bit of critical info:
>>>>
>>>> *Stop trying to cheat physics.*
>>>>
>>>> Put your APs up on poles.  No "IF we mount them", just do it. 
>However
>>>> you have to do it even if you just strap poles to ladders, on
>tripods on
>>>> the roof, whatever.  If you do this from the beginning and get them
>up
>>>> in the clear you will have relatively smooth operation.  If you try
>to
>>>> cheat and have obstacles in the way of the beam, you will have
>headaches
>>>> and maybe pitchforks.
>>>>
>>>> If you're being asked to do this then declare that pole mounts
>shall be
>>>> used and end the discussion.  If they don't like it, walk out and
>let
>>>> them figure it out for themselves.
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