[ale] Fwd: Jim - cannot post this message to ALE, please post for me

Mon May 7 10:09:56 EDT 2012

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:06 -0400, H P Ladds wrote:
> Is this a joke?

No joke since 911.  You can enter Canada easily enough, but coming back,
you need a passport and you are subject to search and seizer. Yes it
happens.

> 
> The US/Canadian border remains one of the least fortified in the
> world. Doesn't the idea of Canadian Customs officials confiscating the
> hard drives of common tourists seem almost comical or urban mythic?
> Does this really happen?
> 
> Having grown-up on the US/Canadian border near Niagara Falls, this
> scenario seems extremely improbable. Only the highest provocation
> would result in this type of action, and it would probably require the
> authorization of some fairly high-ranking officials and US cooperation
> -- confiscating hard drives is not tantamount to confiscating some
> suspect produce or plants.
> 
> So I guess, if you've really pissed-off the US government, you might
> leave the computer at home. (and consider fleeing to Brazil instead of
> Toronto.)
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Ron Frazier (ALE) <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>
> > Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM
> > Subject: Jim - cannot post this message to ALE, please post for me
> > To: Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ron Frazier <rwfrazier at techstarship.com>
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I've tried several times to post this message to ALE, and it won't post.
> >  I've posted other messages today, so I don't know what's up.  Can you
> > please post it (below) for me?  Thanks.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > subject: ot computer precautions needed while traveling to canada
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My wife and I are considering a road trip up to Toronto ON through Niagra
> > Falls.  Having heard / read a number of horror stories about agents
> > confiscating / searching computers (which I do have) and smart phones (which
> > I don't have), I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble to take a laptop.
> >  Everything on my PC is legal, but I do have links, emails, contacts for
> > alternative energy, alternative health, political topics, and ripped music,
> > which I own the CD's for, and heretical things like https://www.eff.org/.
> >  These things might raise flags.  I'm considering just taking an old hard
> > drive and wiping it and installing nothing but Ubuntu.  They can't read what
> > isn't there.  Then, I don't have to worry about encryption, plausible
> > deniability, etc.
> >
> > Once I get there, I might need to know how to use my Hotspot VPN account
> > with Linux.  Thus far, I've only ever used it with Windows.
> >
> > Any thoughts?  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to former
> > messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
> > address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
> >
> > (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
> > call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
> > mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new messages very quickly.)
> >
> > Ron Frazier
> >
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> > linuxdude AT techstarship.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > James P. Kinney III
> >
> > As long as the general population is passive, apathetic, diverted to
> > consumerism or hatred of the vulnerable, then the powerful can do as they
> > please, and those who survive will be left to contemplate the outcome.
> > - 2011 Noam Chomsky
> >
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> >
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