[ale] [OT] Mojave Experiment

[William Wylde]

Vista refused to communicate with a damn router I was trying to install on a
client's lan (it was what he had on his stuff, and we didn't bring a laptop
with us- live an learn).  I think it's because the http config would try to
talk back to the client on a different port.  Even with windoze firewall
turned off this behavior continued.

It also seems to me that Vista is taking windows in a less user-friendly
direction, while Linux makes gains in that dept every day.  Ubuntu installs
on just about everything I've tried with no problem.  Everything "just
works" out of the box.  The same can't be said of Vista.

I also dislike the security paradigm that Microsoft has adopted.  Why don't
they just bite the bullet and embrace the tried-and-true, simple and
straightforward Unix security structure?

This has kept me from doing any more in Vista....



On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Atlanta Geek <atlantageek at gmail.com>wrote:

> Honestly my dislikes are my wife's use of it on her new dell laptop.
> A few months after purchase we had to replace the harddrive and it
> required a reinstall. Nothing but headaches after that.
> It seems stable now but we still can't get the bluetooth to work with
> our phones so we can share the same phonebooks and transfer photos.
> I have a mac running OSX 10.4 and an ubuntu machine. Both have
> bluetooth (mac has it builtin, ubuntu machine uses a usb/bluetooth
> adapter) The mac required a config file change that I found online.
> The Ubuntu worked out of the box. The vista laptop is still not
> working.
> It probably is user error. Or hardware too new. Or the fact that it is
> my wife's machine so I am not nearly as motivated to figure out whats
> wrong as I am with my own stuff. Still it is quite annoying
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Calvin Harrigan
> <charriglists at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Atlanta Geek wrote:
> >> If anyone is interested microsoft has a new site up @
> >> http://www.mojaveexperiment.com to combat preconceived ideas on Vista
> >> The most interesting aspect of this for me was that they used Flash to
> >> do it as opposed to Microsoft's product 'Silverlight'.
> >> Maybe I just find this interesting because some of the marketing guys
> >> who found out I was using adobe flex in our product are asking me why
> >> we don't use Microsoft's Silverlight.
> >>
> >
> > I KNOW this is a Linux mailing list, but...
> >
> > What are some of the reasons why YOU don't like vista.
> >
> > Leaving out, it's from Microsoft, no reason for an upgrade just yet, etc.
> >
> > Personally I think it's resource requirements are too high.
> > A gig of ram not enough?  What are they smoking?
> > 256Meg video card minimum for aero?  What?!  There is nothing in vista
> > that have impressed upon me the need to have so much video card memory.
> > I've seen distributions like Sabayon do close to video miracles with
> > little more than a video frame buffer and not nearly as much as far as
> ram.
> >
> > It's slow!  Don't give me it's not perceivably slower.  It's has the
> > same sluggish feel that visual studio has (.net seems to be the root
> > cause).  I hear people argue that it's faster than XP in some instances
> > on the same hardware.  I generally ask people who say that to step back
> > and think about what they are saying.  How can you possibly think that
> > an OS with several times more data in memory and on disk could possibly
> > be faster?  Did it include a CPU speed multiplier?  Your CPU will still
> > process the same amount of ips.
> >
> > Incompatibility? Really a strawman.  I've since wanted them to stop
> > being directly backwards compatible.  Any old programs can be run in
> > some kind of sandbox, vm.  Wine for windows?
> >
> > Security?  I guess you can call it that...
> >
> > Anyway what are your reasons for dislike.
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