[ale] Weird ssh problem

[DJPfulio at jdpfu.com]

On 2/9/25 17:05, Ben Coleman via Ale wrote:
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> 
> Ok, I've got more info.  He's running mint 22.1, which is based on
> Ubuntu 24.04, which is what I'm using on the server.  If he uses ssh,
> it makes the connection ok.  If he uses putty or filezilla (which is
> what he prefers to use), it fails with an 'invalid user' message, but
> when I look at the server logs, the username looks correct.
> 
> I presume that putty and filezilla have their own code for the ssh
> protocol, rather than using the openssh libraries.  He needs
> something like filezilla.
> 
> Any more ideas?


In 24.04 a few ciphers were removed from ssh defaults.  I suspect putty and filezilla either don't support the newer defaults, but I really don't know.

Pretty much any Linux file manager will support sftp:// URLs, so he doesn't need filezilla at all.  Just needs to install the gvfs-backends and ... ssh for them to work. Just tested pcmanfm with gvfs-backends and sftp://xxxxxxxx URLs (I have ssh-keys between most of my systems) and it worked fine.  The source was a Mint 21.3 system in a VM.  I have a Mint 22.0 elsewhere, but it isn't booted. Pretty certain I've tested this before and it worked.

I don't see the difference in ssh between putty and a terminal with ssh.  They work the same, just use the middle mouse button instead of the right-mouse button to paste.  Same-same.  And if his ~/.ssh/config file is setup, he doesn't need to know much for a login, since the config file will know the DNS/IP and username, so he'll never need to enter it, ever.

If this developer can't actually deal with Linux development, maybe he isn't the right guy for your Linux development needs? Just sayin'.

I'd never tell a developer to use VSCode, but that's a personal issue.  We already have a fantastic IDE on Linux. It is call THE DESKTOP and it doesn't have any limit on the number of windows.  I suppose, if you must have a light IDE, there's geany.  It isn't like he will learn the most powerful editor/ide in the world in the time he's planned for your budget.  That's more of a "years of learning" thing.  If he's in it for the long haul, he should learn it.