[ale] Anyone out there?

[Phil Turmel]

Just a busy time of year.

Nice report.  (I avoid looking at computers unless I'm actually in the 
market to buy--bad things have been known to happen to my budget.)

On 4/20/23 10:40, DJPfulio--- via Ale wrote:
> The list has been slow recently.
> 
> Refurb microtower Dell and passmarks below.
> 
> An ebay special ... All of us get asked by friends about cheap "servers".
> 
> Dell has a Core i3-8xxx refurb for $125 in a Micro Tower case. Free 
> shipping.  Perfect for non-gamers that want a small PC for cheap.  Add a 
> 2T-8T drive and you have a great backup server for your home LAN with 
> 5300 passmark v10.  Good enough for office work or media server, if 
> that's your need.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/385371116037 - Seller has over 98% positive 
> ratings on 290K sales.
> 
> Specs:
>      Intel i3-8100T 3.1GHz 4-Core / 4-Thread Processor (35W)
>          Intel HD Graphics 630
>      8GB DDR4 2400MHz Memory
>      128GB Solid State Drive
>      Windows 10 Pro
>      Ports:
>      2x USB 2.0
>      4x USB 3.1
>      1xDisplayPort 1.2
>      1xHDMI
> 
> Friends don't let friends by older computers when these are so very 
> cheap. I'm still seeing 3rd - 5th generation PCs being sold for similar 
> or higher prices.  A 4rd gen Core i7 isn't better than this 8th gen Core 
> i3. Compare
> 
> CPU               Technology                  Max TDP Passmark v9
> i3 8300T DDR4 2400     8th Gen Coffee Lake     35W     7880
> i7 4765T         4th Gen Haswell     35W     7540
> i5 7500T         7th Gen Kaby Lake     35W     7485
> **i3 8100T DDR4 2400     8th Gen Coffee Lake     35W     7424**
> i5 4570S         4rd Gen Haswell     65W     7021
> i5 7400T         7th Gen Kaby Lake     35W     6887
> i5 6400         6th Gen Skylake     65W     6850
> i5 6500T DDR4 2400     6th Gen Skylake     35W     6340
> i5 6500T DDR3         6th Gen Skylake     35W     6280
> i5 7260U         7th Gen Kaby Lake     15W     5883
> 
> Don't get too worried about the 10s in any passmark scores. Round 
> up/down to the closed hundreds
> 
> A Core i3-13xxx is around 15K passmarks.  That's about the same as a 
> Core i7-10xxxx.  While I didn't check that Core i7 3 generations older 
> than Core i3 are roughly the same performance, it does seem reasonable.
> Check it out: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
> 
> Posted because I hate to see people blowing more money than necessary. I 
> don't know this seller, though I have bought used computers off ebay a 
> few times when I needed something cheap and fast.
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