[ale] Thoughts on PC hardware.

[Robert Harris]

   I was looking at server for the footprint but that I'm not tied to it.
Otherwise I used to run on PCs forever.  I do need to stick with VMware for
now to match my lab but I can always look at taking the old hardware and
changing that to KVM but for now I got to stick with VMware what Ryzen
hardware are using?

Robert


On Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 9:33 AM DJPfulio--- via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> On 10/16/22 22:18, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:
> > So I got a half rack of servers, most are SuperMicro servers, and
> > Can't go to ESXi 7.x because they are older hardware. I like to get
> > something that I can run a couple graphic cards in run Proxmox, and
> > setup cloud gaming server for the kids. So let me know what you do, I
> > like to follow along.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:08 PM Bob Toxen via Ale <ale at ale.org
> > <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I have found Dell & HP to be junk.
> >
> > I assume that one system running VMware or similar won't do.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 02:26:07PM -0600, Robert Harris via Ale
> > wrote:
> >> Right now I've got a quad dell server in a rack.  It won't go past
> >> VMWare 6.7 due to the CPU.  I want to get 3-4 servers again for my
> >> lab but can't afford the dell again.  I've got a rack that has room
> >> for 1 desktop on its side, so I'm a bit limited.  Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Robert
>
> If you aren't tied to VMware stuff, there are lots of F/LOSS options that
> are used in the real-world around the globe.  Just depends on what you
> want/need to learn.  There are good reasons to staying current on VMware
> ESXi and all those tools (since that's where lots of money is).  But the
> Linux kernel has KVM/QEMU which is what almost every VPS provider uses to
> avoid VMware's high license costs.
>
> Lots of companies switched to KVM around 2010 and haven't looked back. I
> used to run ESX and ESXi, Xen, VirtualBox, but after switching to KVM/QEMU
> that is part of the kernel project, the performance and flexibility
> completely won me over.  Add on libvirt and whatever management system you
> like (oVirt/VMM/virsh/..../proxmox) and everyone with a minimal laptop can
> have a VM server.  More hardware gets you more capacity.  At one point, I
> was running 20 VMs on a Core2 Duo system - and it was fine.
>
> Gotta say that I much prefer my home lab on Ryzen 65W systems. The power
> bill and noise are much less. As for redundancy, 2 Ryzen systems with a
> dedicated LAN interlink can support clustered storage in an N+1 setup.
> Hard to be 2 separate, cheap, systems for redundancy, if you limited to a
> single building.
>
> Proxmox has automatic failover between 2 nodes, I believe.
> https://www.ovirt.org/develop/ha-vms.html has other methods.
>
> No need for "server" stuff, unless you demand ECC RAM - don't get me
> started as to why every laptop/desktop should already have ECC for the
> least 15 yrs, but doesn't. Sigh.
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