[ale] local fileserver to cloud replacement?

Chuck Payne terrorpup at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 08:59:13 EST 2021


I had to look this up, as I was clueless what BOFH

Bastard Operator From Hell - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_Operator_From_Hell>

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:45 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> BOFH is my mentor
>
> On March 2, 2021 8:01:58 AM EST, Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ah.  Not one I saw used before.
>>
>> BOFH is, of course, well-known
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:39 AM Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Pimply Faced Youth
>>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/
>>>
>>> There are others that date back 20+ years
>>>
>>> On March 1, 2021 7:37:51 PM EST, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PFY ?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:34 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cloud
>>>>>
>>>>> If your BOFH can't put the drives for the server in the backpack of
>>>>> the PFY on the way to the pub, is it really _your_ data.
>>>>>
>>>>> On March 1, 2021 7:23:34 PM EST, Steve Litt via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:00:03 -0500
>>>>>> Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snark alert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On March 1, 2021 4:02:43 PM EST, Solomon Peachy via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 03:48:49PM -0500, Brent Laminack via Ale
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our organization wants to move about 3.5Tb of data from a local
>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (windows server 2012 R2) to a cloud-based solution. We want to use
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OneLogin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for SSO and provisioning. What would you recommend? Office
>>>>>>>>> 365/Sharepoint/OneDrive? Google Workspaces? Box? Nextcloud? any
>>>>>>>>> recommendations or anti-recommendations would be welcome. Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  * How many folks need to get to it
>>>>>>>>  * Using what mechanism(s)
>>>>>>>>  * Write-once, or more adhoc?
>>>>>>>>  * Who manages accounts?
>>>>>>>>  * Privacy (/regulatory) requirements
>>>>>>>>  * Reliability requirements
>>>>>>>>  * Bandwidth/performance requirements
>>>>>>>>  * Budget
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In other words, "why are you moving it outside your firewall?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because a beancounter read an article about how everything is moving
>>>>>>> to the cloud and having that on the resume looks good for the next
>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love that feeling of permanence knowing if I don't pay on time
>>>>>>> every month it all shuts down. And mounting a filesystem over the
>>>>>>> interwebs is screaming fast (if the user experience is discounted).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AAAAAND:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love that feeling of security knowing that the vendor will back up
>>>>>> regularly, with total restoreability, as if the data were their own.
>>>>>> And the fact that I can back it up locally on a 100MBps Internet line
>>>>>> at 80 seconds per Terrabyte *if* nobody else is using your Internet
>>>>>> line and if every single cable, device and router between you and them
>>>>>> is capable of 100mbit. If not, it's nothing a few hours of rsync will
>>>>>> do it. The vendor won't charge much for your traffic, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, it your data is sensitive, you can relax, knowing that the
>>>>>> vendors' server farms in the nation of Northwest Barfalonia, where
>>>>>> privacy laws are nonexistent, will vet all their employees and prevent
>>>>>> them from looking at your data (and blackmailing you).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SteveT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Litt
>>>>>> Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
>>>>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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