[ale] local fileserver to cloud replacement?

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 08:45:35 EST 2021


BOFH is my mentor

On March 2, 2021 8:01:58 AM EST, Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>Ah.  Not one I saw used before.
>
>BOFH is, of course, well-known
>
>On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:39 AM Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pimply Faced Youth
>>
>> https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/
>>
>> There are others that date back 20+ years
>>
>> On March 1, 2021 7:37:51 PM EST, Pete Hardie <pete.hardie at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> PFY ?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:34 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cloud
>>>>
>>>> If your BOFH can't put the drives for the server in the backpack of
>the
>>>> PFY on the way to the pub, is it really _your_ data.
>>>>
>>>> On March 1, 2021 7:23:34 PM EST, Steve Litt via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:00:03 -0500
>>>>> Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Snark alert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 1, 2021 4:02:43 PM EST, Solomon Peachy via Ale
><ale at ale.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 03:48:49PM -0500, Brent Laminack via Ale
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our organization wants to move about 3.5Tb of data from a local
>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (windows server 2012 R2) to a cloud-based solution. We want to
>use
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OneLogin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for SSO and provisioning. What would you recommend? Office
>>>>>>>> 365/Sharepoint/OneDrive? Google Workspaces? Box? Nextcloud? any
>>>>>>>> recommendations or anti-recommendations would be welcome.
>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  * How many folks need to get to it
>>>>>>>  * Using what mechanism(s)
>>>>>>>  * Write-once, or more adhoc?
>>>>>>>  * Who manages accounts?
>>>>>>>  * Privacy (/regulatory) requirements
>>>>>>>  * Reliability requirements
>>>>>>>  * Bandwidth/performance requirements
>>>>>>>  * Budget
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, "why are you moving it outside your firewall?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because a beancounter read an article about how everything is
>moving
>>>>>> to the cloud and having that on the resume looks good for the
>next
>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love that feeling of permanence knowing if I don't pay on time
>>>>>> every month it all shuts down. And mounting a filesystem over the
>>>>>> interwebs is screaming fast (if the user experience is
>discounted).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AAAAAND:
>>>>>
>>>>> I love that feeling of security knowing that the vendor will back
>up
>>>>> regularly, with total restoreability, as if the data were their
>own.
>>>>> And the fact that I can back it up locally on a 100MBps Internet
>line
>>>>> at 80 seconds per Terrabyte *if* nobody else is using your
>Internet
>>>>> line and if every single cable, device and router between you and
>them
>>>>> is capable of 100mbit. If not, it's nothing a few hours of rsync
>will
>>>>> do it. The vendor won't charge much for your traffic, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, it your data is sensitive, you can relax, knowing that the
>>>>> vendors' server farms in the nation of Northwest Barfalonia, where
>>>>> privacy laws are nonexistent, will vet all their employees and
>prevent
>>>>> them from looking at your data (and blackmailing you).
>>>>>
>>>>> SteveT
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Litt
>>>>> Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
>>>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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>
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>-- 
>Pete Hardie
>--------
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