[ale] local fileserver to cloud replacement?

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 10:19:09 EST 2021


computational demonologist

My new title!

On March 2, 2021 8:59:13 AM EST, Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com> wrote:
>I had to look this up, as I was clueless what BOFH
>
>Bastard Operator From Hell - Wikipedia
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_Operator_From_Hell>
>
>On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:45 AM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> BOFH is my mentor
>>
>> On March 2, 2021 8:01:58 AM EST, Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah.  Not one I saw used before.
>>>
>>> BOFH is, of course, well-known
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:39 AM Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pimply Faced Youth
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/
>>>>
>>>> There are others that date back 20+ years
>>>>
>>>> On March 1, 2021 7:37:51 PM EST, Pete Hardie
><pete.hardie at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PFY ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:34 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cloud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your BOFH can't put the drives for the server in the backpack
>of
>>>>>> the PFY on the way to the pub, is it really _your_ data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On March 1, 2021 7:23:34 PM EST, Steve Litt via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:00:03 -0500
>>>>>>> Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snark alert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On March 1, 2021 4:02:43 PM EST, Solomon Peachy via Ale
><ale at ale.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 03:48:49PM -0500, Brent Laminack via
>Ale
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Our organization wants to move about 3.5Tb of data from a
>local
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (windows server 2012 R2) to a cloud-based solution. We want
>to use
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OneLogin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> for SSO and provisioning. What would you recommend? Office
>>>>>>>>>> 365/Sharepoint/OneDrive? Google Workspaces? Box? Nextcloud?
>any
>>>>>>>>>> recommendations or anti-recommendations would be welcome.
>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Questions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  * How many folks need to get to it
>>>>>>>>>  * Using what mechanism(s)
>>>>>>>>>  * Write-once, or more adhoc?
>>>>>>>>>  * Who manages accounts?
>>>>>>>>>  * Privacy (/regulatory) requirements
>>>>>>>>>  * Reliability requirements
>>>>>>>>>  * Bandwidth/performance requirements
>>>>>>>>>  * Budget
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words, "why are you moving it outside your firewall?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because a beancounter read an article about how everything is
>moving
>>>>>>>> to the cloud and having that on the resume looks good for the
>next
>>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I love that feeling of permanence knowing if I don't pay on
>time
>>>>>>>> every month it all shuts down. And mounting a filesystem over
>the
>>>>>>>> interwebs is screaming fast (if the user experience is
>discounted).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AAAAAND:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love that feeling of security knowing that the vendor will
>back up
>>>>>>> regularly, with total restoreability, as if the data were their
>own.
>>>>>>> And the fact that I can back it up locally on a 100MBps Internet
>line
>>>>>>> at 80 seconds per Terrabyte *if* nobody else is using your
>Internet
>>>>>>> line and if every single cable, device and router between you
>and them
>>>>>>> is capable of 100mbit. If not, it's nothing a few hours of rsync
>will
>>>>>>> do it. The vendor won't charge much for your traffic, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, it your data is sensitive, you can relax, knowing that the
>>>>>>> vendors' server farms in the nation of Northwest Barfalonia,
>where
>>>>>>> privacy laws are nonexistent, will vet all their employees and
>prevent
>>>>>>> them from looking at your data (and blackmailing you).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SteveT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve Litt
>>>>>>> Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
>>>>>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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