[ale] Time for this Grey Beard to stir up some stuff
Solomon Peachy
pizza at shaftnet.org
Thu Jul 22 19:06:31 EDT 2021
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 05:54:14PM -0400, Bob Toxen via Ale wrote:
> I disagree. Well designed software just works, isn't fragile,
> easy to configure, and gives USEFUL error messages like
> "cannot access foobar.com" or "cannot access info.com to do DNS lookup"
> or "not receiving GPS signals" rather than the incompetent
> "Something went wrong".
You're arguing against a strawman that is nearly completely contrary to
what I (or anyone else) actually wrote.
But since you brought this point up, to loop back to the analogy you
responded to, modern cars have excruciating detailed self-diagnostics,
whereas old pre-electronic cars leave you with an "incompetent something
went wrong" error (eg "it won't start") that can require considerable
probing to further diagnose.
> Honestly, I see the root problem as most people have learned to
> accept Micro$loth's garbage and thus tolerate this. Thus, the
> vendors hire cheap inexperienced programmers with no real
> education or talent.
...So sayeth every generation about the next.
But please don't forget that every one of us started out as "cheap
inexperienced" and required a non-trivial amount of education and effort
to get where we are.
> Sadly this garbage has infused into Linux as well especially with
> unnecessary complexity such as the /dev fake file system and systemd,
> both of which I wish I could disable.
Sure you can. Linux works just fine with a static /dev filesystem.
Ditto systemd. Nothing forces you to use either, except perhaps a lack
of other people willing to maintain systems to your liking (for free).
(And before you accuse me of being facetious; maintaining an embedded
system that lacks both systemd and dynamic /dev is one of my $dayjob
responsibilities)
> This is based on my over 40 years of programming experience, not
> including 4 years at Berkeley and programming for 6 years before
> that.
My last GP had over 30 years experience when I moved away, but only a
fool would expect him to be able to perform a successful liver
transplant.
- Solomon
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