[ale] CPU recommendations

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 11:09:18 EDT 2019


Using NVidia GPU as well as AMD GPU in the same system also works. Just
specific the PCI bus ID for each in modules.conf and it works fine.
On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 09:13 -0400, Calvin Harrigan via Ale wrote:
> I've used Nvidia GPUs and AMD processors for years. Never had a
> problem.I built a ryzen system earlier this year on the cheap.
> Mb/ram/CPU < 500. I could have gone cheaper, but I wanted 8 cores and
> some future proofing.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 19:15 DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> > I'm running a Ryzen 2600 with an nVidia GPU. Works great. I don't
> > do any
> > 
> > CUDA stuff. Suppose I could add an old GPU into the system to be
> > used
> > 
> > for GUI stuff, but that isn't my skillset.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'd be surprised if someone here didn't have both AMD and nVidia
> > GPUs in
> > 
> > the same machine somewhere.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/13/19 4:11 PM, Jeffrey Layton via Ale wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks very much! I really appreciate the advice.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I'm not a gamer, more of a scientific user/HPC person. I will be
> > using
> > 
> > > NV cards so that's kind of important.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > BTW - $300 is for the CPU only. :)
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I'm not too worried about 95W or 65W but thanks for the
> > 
> > > tip about the processor models and the power draw.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I'm with you - I've upgraded this case at least once. I'm
> > 
> > > hoping it will last me a little long :)  I think it will.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Thanks!
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Jeff
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org
> > 
> > > <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     +1 for AMD Ryzen.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     Is $300 total cost or CPU-only cost?
> > 
> > >     3600x - $200
> > 
> > >     3600 - $180
> > 
> > >     2600 - $115
> > 
> > >     1600 - $80
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     I think I could build a system (CPU+RAM+MB) around a Ryzen
> > 2600 for $300
> > 
> > >     (12K+ passmarks).  That's 6 cores, 12 threads.  Intel isn't
> > anywhere
> > 
> > >     near that price/performance.  Ryzen APU models with onboard
> > GPUs end in
> > 
> > >     'g', so 2400g.  I wouldn't want to mix AMD and nvidia GPUs on
> > the same
> > 
> > >     system, but people mix Intel iGPUs with both all the time.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     I've been reusing the same case, GPU, HDDs, and all other
> > stuff for
> > 
> > >     years, just swapping the CPU+MB usually, but DDR4 required I
> > get new
> > 
> > >     RAM.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     I think I could do $220 for the Ryzen 1600+RAM+MB if I needed
> > to go
> > 
> > >     cheap.  That's over 10K passmarks for that price.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     With Ryzen, the 'x' in the model means 95W+. Without the 'x',
> > 65W, if
> > 
> > >     that is important to you.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     If you game and that is important, it is completely
> > different. If you
> > 
> > >     need more cores, AMD is the best game the last few years.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >     On 10/13/19 8:43 AM, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
> > 
> > >     > As always, AMD is pretty much "best bang for the buck". I'm
> > not
> > 
> > >     dealing
> > 
> > >     > with home user gear much these days but the Ryzen cpu is a
> > fantastic
> > 
> > >     > value. If you plan to use gpu number crunchers, just make
> > sure the x16
> > 
> > >     > slots are double width apart. Don't skimp on the power
> > supply or
> > 
> > >     case fans.
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     > On October 13, 2019 8:37:17 AM EDT, Jeffrey Layton via Ale
> > 
> > >     <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> > 
> > >     > wrote:
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     Good morning,
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     I don't want to start an argument, particularly on a
> > Sunday
> > 
> > >     morning,
> > 
> > >     >     but I'm looking for a new "workstation" at home. I
> > haven't built
> > 
> > >     >     anything in the last few years, so any help would be
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     Someone is loaning me 2xNVIDIA GPUs that are x16 PCIe
> > each.
> > 
> > >     I'd like
> > 
> > >     >     to have both in a x16 slot physically and electrically.
> > Other than
> > 
> > >     >     that, at least 4cores (more is better). Perhaps
> > something with
> > 
> > >     >     built-in graphics (not always necessary but the two NV
> > cards
> > 
> > >     are not
> > 
> > >     >     really designed for graphics - mostly computation). I
> > can always
> > 
> > >     >     throw in a simple inexpensive GPU. I'd like to keep the
> > price
> > 
> > >     below
> > 
> > >     >     $300 but I can go a little higher I think.
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     I don't mind AMD or Intel. I don't mind having to buy a
> > new MB and
> > 
> > >     >     memory. With these two cards and a new CPU, I'm sure
> > I'll have to
> > 
> > >     >     buy a new PSU (probably 1kW or greater since each GPU
> > is about
> > 
> > >     300W).
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     To get things started, Newegg has a pretty good deal on
> > the
> > 
> > >     >     i7-6800K. 6c/12t, 4 memory channels. Right now it's
> > about $324
> > 
> > >     >   
> > 
> > >      (
> > https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779
> > 
> > >     >     ).
> > 
> > >     >
> > 
> > >     >     Thanks for any and all suggestions!
> > 
> > > 
> > 
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