[ale] Replacing shared host?

Simba simbalion-ale at tailpuff.net
Thu Dec 20 13:33:53 EST 2018


I need to amend my response, I didn't mean to disagree that businesses
should be careful who they do business with. That part was correct.

I meant to say the idea that businesses can predict the quality of
persons whom sign up for their services is wrong. Especially at the
scale which companies like Digital Ocean or Amazon operate. They have
millions of customers. Vetting each one is impossible. Again, I see this
as a lack of understand of the challenges that businesses face by folks
who don't know anything about operating businesses. No harm intended.

Sorry for my confusion.

Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
https://keybase.io/simbalion

"Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

On 12/20/18 1:31 PM, Simba via Ale wrote:
> I hope my inline quoting comes across legibly.
> 
>> Not really. Businesses can and should limit themselves to who and how
>>  they do business. Just because someone wants to pay for a service
>> does not mean the business must accept. Happens all the time.
> 
> With all due respect, that's wrong. And you won't find any responsible
> business in America who will tell you the actions they took in response
> to abuse reports. Not one.
> 
> It's astonishing to me in this era of privacy outrages that anyone would
> think themselves so entitled as to be deserving of such information, or
> to argue in favor of such disclosures.
> 
> This particular argument started with someone saying Digital Ocean
> doesn't respond to abuse reports. I know they do, because one of my
> automated scripts accidentally sent an abuse report to them about one of
> my own droplets, and within 24 hours I received an E-mail from them
> demanding an explanation of the alleged behavior. The issue was swiftly
> resolved when I explained that it was a false alert, and that I owned
> both droplets in question.
> 
>> I commend it to you; well worth the read.
> 
> I doubt it, based on this:
> 
>> I strongly recommend against Digital Ocean and Choopa/Vultr: they're
>> very poorly-run operations, and as a result of that, they've been
>> noticed. And not in a good way.  (It is never a good sign when I
>> recognize an operation's name immediately because there are entries
>> for it in my MTA configuration and/or firewalls.)
> 
> To try and keep my response short: That paragraph basically says Mr.
> Kulawiec doesn't know anything about the hosting industry.
> 
> I do, I work in it. I'm not going to learn anything from his 10 page
> E-mail written at 3 in the morning.
> 
> My suggestion: If that E-mail contains such valuable information as a
> couple people have suggested, then blog it and share it with the world.
> 
> 
> Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
> https://keybase.io/simbalion
> 
> "Why is a raven like a writing desk?"
> 
> On 12/20/18 12:59 PM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
>> Not really. Businesses can and should limit themselves to who and how
>> they do business. Just because someone wants to pay for a service does
>> not mean the business must accept. Happens all the time.
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