[ale] KDE, Gnome, XFCE OT?

[Beddingfield, Allen]

On a large deployment, the cost of those VMware licenses is a drop in the bucket, and once you cover the initial cost, the 3-year renewal is not that bad.

For example, we currently have 6 Dell R930s, with 4 E7 CPUs each, and 4TB of memory each.  There is an additional 12 R815s that will be replaced with fewer R930s of similar specs soon.   We have over 1000 VMs, spread across multiple datacenters in two states. Compared with our hardware costs, the VMware license cost is not that great.
We bought our VMware licenses back in the days when you couldn't get anywhere near the density we have with current hardware, so we have just been paying maintenance on them, and moving them forward to new hardware.  We pay a lot more to SUSE, Oracle, and Microsoft than we do to VMware.
Allen B.

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Allen Beddingfield
Systems Engineer
Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
Office 205-348-2251
allen at ua.edu

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of DJ-Pfulio [DJPfulio at jdpfu.com]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 10:09 AM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] KDE, Gnome, XFCE OT?

On 03/28/2016 09:54 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> My tuning time costs more than an extra pair of 16GB DIMMS.

Fine.
Deploy with way too much.
Monitor for 2+ months.
See that 512MB is needed and 1 CPU.
Spend 10 seconds to reduce the memory allocation and CPU to the VM. Next
reboot, solved.  System monitoring isn't a waste of time.
Right-sizing isn't a waste of time.

Being able to have 5 more VMs per physical server **is** a cost savings,
after all.  We aren't aiming for 100% utilization, 80% on CPU is fine.
Having a little free RAM for VM spikes is useful too.

BTW, KVM does core memory sharing too, these days.  No need to spend
$12K for VM licenses, plus $1K for any addon - you know - like backup
software.  VMware is impressive and at that price, it should be.

I need to go away now. Have an idea.
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