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Sun Mar 8 12:16:51 EDT 2015

Like the other poster, I don't see a monopoly.  I jump from comcast to 
AT at T as it suites me.  I could go dish if I want.  You can go digital TV 
over the air with a very minimal investment for 100% free delivery.  Of 
course, I don't subscribe to ANYBODIES tv content, only Internet 
service.  But seeing as how  you can watch so much junk on the Internet, 
via smart TVs, via providers like Crackle, HBO, Hulu, etc, where is the 
monopoly?

Does not Comcast have a right to say who will use their circuit and for 
how much?  And your contract with Hulu has nothing to do with Hulo's 
contract with Comcast.  Don't like them?  Dump them.  Here is a news 
flash:  Cable TV is a dying bread as more and more people cut the wire.

As more and more people cut the wire, the costs keep getting added to 
the less and less and the profits are actually rising with a decreasing 
subscriber base.  It's crazy.  smaller and smaller groups say they 
"NEED" the tv cable and there is  no way around it.  News flash:  stop 
watching cable TV and the need for paying for less goes away.  NO 
federal law required.  No dualopoly, or "open market" required.  People 
just are not using cable any more and the market is going away.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-19/u-s-pay-tv-subscriptions-fall-for-first-time-as-streaming-gains

and I totally fail to see how separating out "content providers" from 
"creators" would do anything other than make it more expensive to 
"create content".

If you don't like them, don't pay for them.  That is what I do and it is 
working quite well, for me.  I only pay for Internet service and I jump 
ship at the tiniest provocation on to the next provider.

On 03/08/2015 10:57 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:
> Comcast being ISP and content creator is part of the problem.  They 
> will prioritize their content over someone else's ,and since they have 
> a monopoly on delivery, it is de facto unfair
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Byron Jeff 
> <byronjeff at mail.clayton.edu <mailto:byronjeff at mail.clayton.edu>> wrote:
>
>     On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:41:27AM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
>     > I lived in Houston before moving here - not in a baby-bell area.
>     My phone was
>     > $11/month.  Moved to Smyrna - BellSouth - $26/month.
>     >
>     > 'nuff said.
>     >
>
>     Standard land line. How quaint!
>
>     VOIP and Google Voice has deregulated this market already. I have a
>     Callcentric DID with E911 service for $4.50 a month. Incoming
>     calls routed
>     in via GV. By virtualizing my home number, I never have to worry
>     about that
>     number being tied to a particular provider ever again. If I ever
>     give up my
>     AT&T cell service, I'll do exactly the same with my cell number.
>
>     > Don't get me started about power issues where I lived in Houston.
>     >
>     > Comcast needs to be broken up, but not in the same way that AT*T
>     was. More like
>     > how natural gas has been deregulated in Georgia.
>
>     There isn't a direct correlation between the two. The primary
>     difference is
>     the fact that natural gas is exactly the same no matter who's
>     marketing it.
>     However with digital content, each provider offers different
>     content that
>     has to be delivered. Comcast has comcast only content that neither
>     Charter,
>     AT&T, or Dish offers. So instead of GNG, which can centralize all gas
>     delivery operations for every marketer using the same
>     infrastructure, in
>     your proposed scenario each provider would have to have a
>     connection to the
>     head end of the delivery provider and the delivery provider would
>     have to
>     carry enough bandwidth to deliver every content providers content
>     at the
>     same time.
>
>     Don't you think there will be a cost attached to that? One of the
>     reasons I
>     finally turned off my natural gas service was the fact that GNG was
>     charging me nearly $40/month simply for the priviledge of
>     providing gas to
>     my meter. No matter if it's 1 therm or 100, the base delivery and
>     tax was a
>     $40+ base. Can you imagine how much a centralized content delivery
>     provider
>     would charge simply for access?
>
>     How exactly is the market closed? Right now I can get Comcast (which I
>     would never do, long story), AT&T UVerse, Dish, and DirectTV. In
>     fact in
>     the last 5 years I've had service with each of the above and
>     except for
>     Dish I've kicked each and every one of them to the curb at one
>     point in
>     time or another. There's nothing to preclude Verizon or Google from
>     entering the fray.
>
>     Comparing digital content delivery to natural gas deregulation is
>     an apples
>     to gorillas argument, seems to me.
>
>     BAJ
>
>     >
>     >
>     > On 03/07/2015 04:24 PM, Jim Lynch wrote:
>     > > The Judge made my life harder.  Before his ruling, I picked up
>     the phone and
>     > > called AT&T when the network wasn't working. It got fixed. 
>     Afterwards, I
>     > > called AT&T and after a bit, they told me it wasn't their
>     problem, so I called
>     > > Racal Milgo and guess what?  It wasn't their problem either. 
>     It took 2x 3x
>     > > maybe 4x the amount of time to get the network back.
>     > >
>     > > Progress...
>     > > On 03/07/2015 04:14 PM, James Taylor wrote:
>     > >> Now you're making us all feel old....
>     > >> -jt
>     > >
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