[ale] Republicans’ “Internet Freedom Act” would wipe out net neutrality | Ars Technica

Pete Hardie pete.hardie at gmail.com
Sun Mar 8 10:57:18 EDT 2015


Comcast being ISP and content creator is part of the problem.  They will
prioritize their content over someone else's ,and since they have a
monopoly on delivery, it is de facto unfair

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Byron Jeff <byronjeff at mail.clayton.edu>
wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:41:27AM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> > I lived in Houston before moving here - not in a baby-bell area. My
> phone was
> > $11/month.  Moved to Smyrna - BellSouth - $26/month.
> >
> > 'nuff said.
> >
>
> Standard land line. How quaint!
>
> VOIP and Google Voice has deregulated this market already. I have a
> Callcentric DID with E911 service for $4.50 a month. Incoming calls routed
> in via GV. By virtualizing my home number, I never have to worry about that
> number being tied to a particular provider ever again. If I ever give up my
> AT&T cell service, I'll do exactly the same with my cell number.
>
> > Don't get me started about power issues where I lived in Houston.
> >
> > Comcast needs to be broken up, but not in the same way that AT*T was.
> More like
> > how natural gas has been deregulated in Georgia.
>
> There isn't a direct correlation between the two. The primary difference is
> the fact that natural gas is exactly the same no matter who's marketing it.
> However with digital content, each provider offers different content that
> has to be delivered. Comcast has comcast only content that neither Charter,
> AT&T, or Dish offers. So instead of GNG, which can centralize all gas
> delivery operations for every marketer using the same infrastructure, in
> your proposed scenario each provider would have to have a connection to the
> head end of the delivery provider and the delivery provider would have to
> carry enough bandwidth to deliver every content providers content at the
> same time.
>
> Don't you think there will be a cost attached to that? One of the reasons I
> finally turned off my natural gas service was the fact that GNG was
> charging me nearly $40/month simply for the priviledge of providing gas to
> my meter. No matter if it's 1 therm or 100, the base delivery and tax was a
> $40+ base. Can you imagine how much a centralized content delivery provider
> would charge simply for access?
>
> How exactly is the market closed? Right now I can get Comcast (which I
> would never do, long story), AT&T UVerse, Dish, and DirectTV. In fact in
> the last 5 years I've had service with each of the above and except for
> Dish I've kicked each and every one of them to the curb at one point in
> time or another. There's nothing to preclude Verizon or Google from
> entering the fray.
>
> Comparing digital content delivery to natural gas deregulation is an apples
> to gorillas argument, seems to me.
>
> BAJ
>
> >
> >
> > On 03/07/2015 04:24 PM, Jim Lynch wrote:
> > > The Judge made my life harder.  Before his ruling, I picked up the
> phone and
> > > called AT&T when the network wasn't working.  It got fixed.
> Afterwards, I
> > > called AT&T and after a bit, they told me it wasn't their problem, so
> I called
> > > Racal Milgo and guess what?  It wasn't their problem either.  It took
> 2x 3x
> > > maybe 4x the amount of time to get the network back.
> > >
> > > Progress...
> > > On 03/07/2015 04:14 PM, James Taylor wrote:
> > >> Now you're making us all feel old....
> > >> -jt
> > >
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