[ale] ALE-* dying?

[Brian MacLeod]

Not to mention that as far as the whole helping users get jobs front, that
was part of what was driving the formation of a LOPSA chapter here in
Atlanta last year.  Mentoring, instilling ethics into operations and all
that.

Then everyone got busy there, too.

If ALE takes up this mantle, then there is less need for LOPSA here.  If
LOPSA gets restarted, then it could take some folks here away.  I'm not
saying everyone will go either/or.  But people are busy, and they'll make
choices that best benefit them, and with as many groups as there are in
Atlanta, you can't possibly attend everything in your circles of interest.

But that's why I said something.  If we don't want it to die, we need to
look at what ALE *CAN* do to stay relevant and interesting enough for folks
to dedicate some time to it, even it is the occasional post on the mailing
list and attending a meeting here or there.  It'd be really great if we
could get more presenters too, but I already know that particular well is
pretty dry right now.

bnm

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Michael Brodeur <mikejoebro at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I've mentioned this before, but I think the group needs to expand beyond a
> hobbyist base. If we start focusing more on helping Linux users get
> certified and get jobs, that may help mitigate dwindling numbers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 2, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Leam Hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Want an outsiders opinion?
> >
> > Whether or not ALE meetings continue I personally find the mailing list
> very useful. It's my "go to" resource for linux stuff that isn't distro
> specific or when I want an educated but diverse set of opinions.
> >
> > The question every organization; be it business, government, or social,
> must answer is "why do we exist?". The answer changes, often faster than
> the organization. Some orgs die, some linger on, and a few actually manage
> to grow through change.
> >
> > There have always been lower grade admins. The same goes for
> programmers, "business analysts", writers, educators, etc. There are lots
> of needs out there; slow websites, where to find the best hosting package,
> open source project needs devs/testers/docs, small office networking, the
> list goes on.
> >
> > For a group of people who help others succeed, the members need chances
> to help and time to grow themselves. So my recommendation would be to take
> a group look at the options, figure out what is fun for you, and start
> moving in that direction.
> >
> > Leam
> >
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