[ale] Changing Linux

[H P Ladds]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at dsservices.com>
wrote:

> I'd suggest you check the archives here for the past couple of weeks for
> the discussion.
>
> It basically boiled down to:
> 1) It's all a terrible idea designed to make us lose our minds.
> -OR-
> 1) It's all a great idea that in essence is actually simpler and more
> reliable.
> -AND-
> 2) Its being adopted by more and more distros so gnashing your teeth
> against it isn't going to help you as much as learning how to use it.
>

Nonsense! leave Grub alone :)


>
> Of course if that doesn't satisfy your hunger for complaining rather than
> adapting you can find the same kinds of discussion about it all over the
> web.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of David
> Jackson
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:27 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: [ale] Changing Linux
>
> Hi guys.
>
> So, not to start a holy war or anything, but how does the notion of
> systemd and journald startups reconcile with the long-standing UNIX
> tradition of simplicity and high reliability?  Of using simple text files
> and daemons that can die or hang without bringing down the entire system?
>
>
> Mind you, I'm just coming back to Linux after a long lay off, so I've
> missed a lot of these discussions that you all probably have been having
> over these years.  If Debian is using systemd now, and they're still as
> "free" and "traditional" as they always were, I must be missing quite a bit
> by parachuting into the middle of all this.  BTW, I'm not finding systemd
> on my Slackware 14.1 system.
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Dave
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