[ale] Changing Linux

[JD]

On 09/26/2014 02:54 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> I'd suggest you check the archives here for the past couple of weeks for the discussion.
> 
> It basically boiled down to:
> 1) It's all a terrible idea designed to make us lose our minds.
> -OR-
> 1) It's all a great idea that in essence is actually simpler and more reliable.
> -AND-
> 2) Its being adopted by more and more distros so gnashing your teeth against it isn't going to help you as much as learning how to use it.
> 
> Of course if that doesn't satisfy your hunger for complaining rather than adapting you can find the same kinds of discussion about it all over the web.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of David Jackson
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 2:27 PM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: [ale] Changing Linux
> 
> Hi guys.
> 
> So, not to start a holy war or anything, but how does the notion of systemd and journald startups reconcile with the long-standing UNIX tradition of simplicity and high reliability?  Of using simple text files and daemons that can die or hang without bringing down the entire system?
> 
> 
> Mind you, I'm just coming back to Linux after a long lay off, so I've missed a lot of these discussions that you all probably have been having over these years.  If Debian is using systemd now, and they're still as "free" and "traditional" as they always were, I must be missing quite a bit by parachuting into the middle of all this.  BTW, I'm not finding systemd on my Slackware 14.1 system.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts?

Regardless of everything else - seems the commands will be at least 1 word
longer for no extra capability. Sometimes much longer. On that alone, it sucks. ;)