[ale] Changing Linux

[Ted W]

On 09/26/14 14:21, David Jackson wrote:
> Hi guys.
>
> So, not to start a holy war or anything, but how does the notion of systemd and journald startups reconcile with the long-standing UNIX tradition of simplicity and high reliability?  Of using simple text files and daemons that can die or hang without bringing down the entire system?
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>
> Mind you, I'm just coming back to Linux after a long lay off, so I've missed a lot of these discussions that you all probably have been having over these years.  If Debian is using systemd now, and they're still as "free" and "traditional" as they always were, I must be missing quite a bit by parachuting into the middle of all this.  BTW, I'm not finding systemd on my Slackware 14.1 system.
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> Any thoughts?
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> Dave
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My biggest gripe about it would have to be it's incompatibility with the 
other Unix clones out there. Systemd is very much a Linux thing. It does 
not, and probably will not, run on any of the BSDs. There has been some 
work from OpenBSD to get some form of it working but Theo came out on 
the mailing list the other day and basically stated that there were no 
plans to officially support such an implementation now or in to the 
forseeable future.

Since I administer both Linux and BSD systems this all means that I now 
have to get familiar with two different init systems with no option to 
run Systemd on all of them, even if I do end up liking it better which, 
from what I've read so far seems I may end up doing once the political 
cat fight around it calms down somewhat.

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Ted W. <ted at xy0.org>