[ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows 7, not 8, within a year

Tue Oct 16 14:57:35 EDT 2012

Thanks for the note.  I looked at since you mentioned it.  I'm going to keep it in mind but the keys look a bit small for my thumbs.  What I would like is something that automatically beeps when I make a spelling error.  Also, almost every time use a contraction, the spell checker complains about it even though the word is valid.  I don't know if there is a way to fix that.

Sincerely,

Ron

Sam Rakowski <devnull at iamdevnull.info> wrote:

>Have you tried Hacker's Keyboard? That's what I use on my 10" tablet,
>and while I wouldn't type out anything lengthy on it, I can use it for
>chat for an extended period of time, and it's relatively comfortable to
>do so. 
>Sent via BlackBerry
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>From: "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>
>Sender: ale-bounces at ale.org
>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:05:52 
>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<ale at ale.org>
>Reply-To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
>Subject: Re: [ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows 7,
>not 8,
>	within a year
>
>I couldn't see using my 10" android tablet for any length of time
>without the add on bt keyboard.  The keyboard tremendously increases
>the utility.  (Typing this on screen is PAINFULLY SLOW.)  Touch
>controls are handy and usable enough for this type of device.  (Too
>many words, reverting to using the keyboard.)  Cleaning fingerprints
>off is a bother, but not insanely so.  HOWEVER, I have NO desire to
>touch my 15" laptop screen, and go to great pains to avoid doing so. 
>It's too much bother to clean and reposition the screen.  My desktop
>monitors have a matte finish, which I prefer.  But that makes it even
>harder to get smudges off.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Ron
>
>
>Michael Potter <michael at potter.name> wrote:
>
>>I have a keyboard for my iPad.  I find it completely natural to mix
>>touch screen and keyboard input.
>>
>>Of course, that is for a small screen that is very close to the
>>keyboard.
>>
>>On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>> remember the old computer desks for schools that had the crt below
>>the desk
>>> and the desktop was glass? Yeah. It was a constant pain in the neck.
>>Humans
>>> aren't built to look at the table top all day.
>>>
>>> OK. we're not built to look at a computer all day either but...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Lightner, Jeff
><JLightner at water.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Of course you’re all thinking of the current setup where the
>>>> keyboard/mouse are flat on the desk and the monitor is mounted to
>be
>>looked
>>>> at straight on (perpendicular to the desk).   Given flat screen
>>technology
>>>> there’s no reason one couldn’t get rid of the keyboard/mouse and
>>have the
>>>> terminal flat on the desk and use its touch screen.   Not saying
>I’m
>>in
>>>> favor of that – just trying to think outside the box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>>Jim
>>>> Kinney
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:32 PM
>>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>>>> Subject: Re: [ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows
>7,
>>not
>>>> 8, within a year
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/2012 01:35 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yes. Touchscreens are for "content consumers". Content producers
>>would go
>>>> insane if their only input was a touchscreen.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine the process at the u-checkout line expanded to all of IT.
>>"Pick
>>>> problem by color, category or sku"...
>>>>
>>>> If it's made so idiots can use it, there's no incentive for the
>>idiots to
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Maybe a Morse-code key on the cell phones for text input.....
>>>>
>>>> Which Morse code: American or International?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ha! Here in "bubbaville" it'll have to 10-codes only. so the bubbas
>>only
>>>> need to learn the digits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/15/2012 11:33 AM, Ben Coleman wrote:
>>>> > On 10/14/2012 1:15 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>>>> >> The blogger commented that Win8 interaction is medical disaster
>>waiting
>>>> >> to happen for users of laptops and desktops because of
>repetitive
>>>> >> motion
>>>> >> injuries caused by constantly needing to touch the screen.
>>>> > So, sounds like Win8 represents the return of Gorilla arm.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ben
>>>>
>>>> Before seeing a doctor about your shoulder injury.  My take is when
>>>> creating content, entering data, writing documents, etc. is best
>>done
>>>> with the traditional keyboard/mouse interface not a touchscreen. I
>>>> believe Xerox PARC carefully studied human/computer interactions
>and
>>>> concluded that the keyboard/mouse interface used today is the best
>>>> overall in most typing/editing intensive situations. That research
>>is
>>>> from the 70's.
>>>>
>>>> Touch screens seem to be very good for cellphones, smart phones,
>and
>>>> tablets which only require very sporadic and limited typing (or are
>>>> intended for such use).
>>>>
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>>>> jslozier at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What
>you
>>gain
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>>tail.
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