[ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows 7, not 8, within a year

Tue Oct 16 10:37:10 EDT 2012

Have you tried Hacker's Keyboard? That's what I use on my 10" tablet, and while I wouldn't type out anything lengthy on it, I can use it for chat for an extended period of time, and it's relatively comfortable to do so. 
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From: "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <atllinuxenthinfo at techstarship.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:05:52 
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<ale at ale.org>
Reply-To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
Subject: Re: [ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows 7, not 8,
	within a year

I couldn't see using my 10" android tablet for any length of time without the add on bt keyboard.  The keyboard tremendously increases the utility.  (Typing this on screen is PAINFULLY SLOW.)  Touch controls are handy and usable enough for this type of device.  (Too many words, reverting to using the keyboard.)  Cleaning fingerprints off is a bother, but not insanely so.  HOWEVER, I have NO desire to touch my 15" laptop screen, and go to great pains to avoid doing so.  It's too much bother to clean and reposition the screen.  My desktop monitors have a matte finish, which I prefer.  But that makes it even harder to get smudges off.

Sincerely,

Ron

Michael Potter <michael at potter.name> wrote:

>I have a keyboard for my iPad.  I find it completely natural to mix
>touch screen and keyboard input.
>
>Of course, that is for a small screen that is very close to the
>keyboard.
>
>On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> remember the old computer desks for schools that had the crt below
>the desk
>> and the desktop was glass? Yeah. It was a constant pain in the neck.
>Humans
>> aren't built to look at the table top all day.
>>
>> OK. we're not built to look at a computer all day either but...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at water.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Of course you’re all thinking of the current setup where the
>>> keyboard/mouse are flat on the desk and the monitor is mounted to be
>looked
>>> at straight on (perpendicular to the desk).   Given flat screen
>technology
>>> there’s no reason one couldn’t get rid of the keyboard/mouse and
>have the
>>> terminal flat on the desk and use its touch screen.   Not saying I’m
>in
>>> favor of that – just trying to think outside the box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
>Jim
>>> Kinney
>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 3:32 PM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>>> Subject: Re: [ale] OT if you must use windows, upgrade to windows 7,
>not
>>> 8, within a year
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2012 01:35 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>
>>> yes. Touchscreens are for "content consumers". Content producers
>would go
>>> insane if their only input was a touchscreen.
>>>
>>> Imagine the process at the u-checkout line expanded to all of IT.
>"Pick
>>> problem by color, category or sku"...
>>>
>>> If it's made so idiots can use it, there's no incentive for the
>idiots to
>>> change.
>>>
>>> Hmm. Maybe a Morse-code key on the cell phones for text input.....
>>>
>>> Which Morse code: American or International?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha! Here in "bubbaville" it'll have to 10-codes only. so the bubbas
>only
>>> need to learn the digits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2012 11:33 AM, Ben Coleman wrote:
>>> > On 10/14/2012 1:15 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
>>> >> The blogger commented that Win8 interaction is medical disaster
>waiting
>>> >> to happen for users of laptops and desktops because of repetitive
>>> >> motion
>>> >> injuries caused by constantly needing to touch the screen.
>>> > So, sounds like Win8 represents the return of Gorilla arm.
>>> >
>>> > Ben
>>>
>>> Before seeing a doctor about your shoulder injury.  My take is when
>>> creating content, entering data, writing documents, etc. is best
>done
>>> with the traditional keyboard/mouse interface not a touchscreen. I
>>> believe Xerox PARC carefully studied human/computer interactions and
>>> concluded that the keyboard/mouse interface used today is the best
>>> overall in most typing/editing intensive situations. That research
>is
>>> from the 70's.
>>>
>>> Touch screens seem to be very good for cellphones, smart phones, and
>>> tablets which only require very sporadic and limited typing (or are
>>> intended for such use).
>>>
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>> Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
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>tail.
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