[ale] So what do we do when the PC goes away?

Jay Lozier jslozier at gmail.com
Thu Nov 1 14:44:51 EDT 2012


On 11/01/2012 02:11 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
> Hi Jay,
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I've heard  Cinnamon and Mate mentioned before, and am considering them.  I haven't researched it yet since I'm putting off upgrading Ubuntu 11.04 until they stop patching it.  Gnome 2 works just like I need it to and I've customized it the way I like it.  I like their "panels".  I have one on the top of the screen that holds a cpu frequency monitor and buttons for my running applications.  I have one on the right that holds the Ubuntu "start" menu and cpu / memory / swap space monitor as well as notifications and recycle bin, volume control, etc.  But, if I have to change, I'll be considering these.  Is it possible to put Cinnamon or Mate on Ubuntu 12.10 instead of the Unity UI?  If so, how would I go about that?
>
> Hi Allen,
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I'm also going to be considering XFCE and maybe LXDE as well.  Based on what I said above about what I like about Gnome 2, which environment do you think is the most adaptable and customizable?  I especially like to add active application buttons, cpu monitors, temp monitors, and notifications, etc. around the edges of the screen.  I also need a comprehensive hierarchical menu system where I can browse to every program on the system if I don't know what's there or what to search for.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
Cinnamon is the Mint's take on the old Gnome interface using Gnome 3 
underneath and Mate is a straight development of Gnome 2. I have used 
Cinnamon and like it better than Unity or Gnome 3 but I have not tried 
Mate. I think Mint's idea is that more modern computers would use 
Cinnamon while older, less powerful computers would use Mate.

Also, the Swambo uses Mint with Cinnamon about 50% of the time instead 
of M$ Win 7 and likes it. She did not like Unity either. Like many 
articles written recently, Linux DE are easy to use, certainly better 
than Win 8, and which one is better is mostly user preference and needs. 
Personally I prefer the old Gnome look and feel; I think it works best 
for me.

>
>
> Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/31/2012 09:11 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:
>>> I'm typing this from a tablet.  However, for any serious work I use a
>> PC.  I'm not too worried they'll die out.  May be fewer vendors.
>> Getting a good OS to run may be a problem.  Both Ubuntu and MS have
>> abandoned good pc OS design.  I'm upgrading most of my dual boot pc's
>> to Windows 7 on the MS side.  Not sure what I'll upgrade to from Ubuntu
>> 11.04 on the Linux side.
>>> Ron
>> Try Mint with either Cinnamon or Mate
>>>
>>> Jim Lynch <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I keep reading that the pc is doomed and will die before long.  They
>>>> don't define long however.  All these smart devices like tablets,
>>>> phones
>>>> and things yet to be invented will replace them.  Now it's possible
>>>> that
>>>> 9th generation programming languages will take verbal instructions
>> to
>>>> generate apps, but somehow I doubt it.  I shudder to think how I'd
>>>> develop a complex C++ app on a tablet or a phone.
>>>>
>>>>    A tablet can never replace my 22" screen.  After all I'm pretty
>> sure
>>>> my vision will not improve in the future.  Are we going to have
>> eyeball
>>>> implants that will send the screen directly to the brain? Maybe type
>> by
>>>> thinking?  That seems dangerous given the way my mind wanders off at
>>>> times.  I'm thinking that a scantily clothed blond wouldn't do at
>> all
>>>> in
>>>> the middle of my database update.
>>>>
>>>> To borrow from the NRA, "I'll give you my keyboard and mouse when
>> you
>>>> pry  it from my cold, dead hands."
>>>>
>>>> Jim.
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>>>
>>> (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to
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> Sent from my Android Acer A500 tablet with bluetooth keyboard and K-9 Mail.
> Please excuse my potential brevity.
>
> (To whom it may concern.  My email address has changed.  Replying to former
> messages prior to 03/31/12 with my personal address will go to the wrong
> address.  Please send all personal correspondence to the new address.)
>
> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want to
> call on the phone.  I get about 300 emails per day from alternate energy
> mailing lists and such.  I don't always see new email messages very quickly.)
>
> Ron Frazier
> 770-205-9422 (O)   Leave a message.
> linuxdude AT techstarship.com
>
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