[ale] Car topic

Cameron Kilgore ghostfreeman at gmail.com
Wed Sep 7 12:37:07 EDT 2011


Since we're on the topic of emissions testing, are out-of-county residents
who live inside a county where a permit is required, required to have a
permit?

--Cameron <http://ghostfreeman.net>


On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, David Hillman <hillmands at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all.  Well, it looks like I would have to spend over $805 in
> emissions repairs to get a waiver.  Replacing just the pump (sealed) and the
> valves will still put me over the limit of what I had budgeted for this
> mostly project vehicle.  I have another car I can use.  I picked up the VW
> for very little money, it was supposed to be something me and my friends
> could tinker with and use for road trips.  Shedding weight, in the form of a
> large, heavy pump and associated gear, is something I felt would make a nice
> improvement.  Spending money to fix a problem that doesn't improve engine
> performance or increase the capability of the car in any meaningful way goes
> against my principles--especially, when it'll take funds away from my "fun"
> project.  I now have no choice but to get rid of a solid vehicle that is
> otherwise perfect for our project.  I won't get another car that has been
> engineered this way.  If you can't beat 'em and you don't want to join 'em,
> go in a different direction.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Michael Trausch <mike at trausch.us> wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2011 10:56 AM, David Hillman wrote:
>> > Is there to get around the emissions requirements in Georgia?  I called
>> > the tag office, but I got put on hold for an eternity.
>>
>> If you show that you have spent over a certain amount of money to fix a
>> problem, you can get a waiver for that year only.  The next year you'll
>> have to spend the same amount in order to get a waiver again.
>>
>> Modifying the programming of the ECC is *not* a task that you want to
>> take on yourself.  If you can show that the removal of the system does
>> not affect the compliance with emissions standards for that model year,
>> you might be able to get away with modifying it, but you'll have to get
>> to know the programming of your ECC quite intimately and if any updates
>> to the firmware become available that get pushed to your computer while
>> it is in the shop, you'll have to patch those updates as well.
>>
>> Personally, I wouldn't even attempt it.
>>
>>        --- Mike
>>
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