[ale] GO Windows!!! ;-)

[Avery Ceo]

On 6/28/10, Lightner, Jeff <jlightner at water.com> wrote:
> I reckon that's plain wrong - Just because "ain't" is in common use it
> ain't proper English.   "It is me" may be common but there ain't no
> arguments for it being proper English so there ain't no arguments on
> both sides.  Youse is either right or y'all is wrong but you'uns can't
> have it both ways.
>
> (waits for the comments about "ain't no" being a double negative...)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> George Carless
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:38 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Subject: Re: [ale] GO Windows!!! ;-)
>
> William Fragakis (william at fragakis.com) wrote the following on Sun, Jun
> 27, 2010 at 10:09:35AM -0400:
>> bzzzt.
>>
>> Nope. "Is" is a linking verb - hence, it has no object. Most
>> traditionalists would say the original poster, indeed, used the proper
>> usage. e.g. You wouldn't say "Who is her?" instead of "Who is she?"
>
> I should never have jumped into this, and apologies for the pedantry.
> And, technically,
> you're quite right, although there's a lot of argument on either side
> (and,
> idiomatically, "and me" is far more natural than "and I.") For my part I
> feel that "it
> is me" works differently from "I am it;" while you're right that nobody
> would say "who
> is her" or, indeed, "I is the problem," nor would anybody say "The
> problem is I" or
> "See the person arguing an unwinnable argument in an off-topic fashion?
> That person is
> I."  "I" doesn't agree with "is," while "me" does.  As it were.
>
> Cheers,
> George
>
>> http://www.myenglishteacher.net/linkingwordsandpronouns.html
>>
>> or better:
>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2148233_choose-pronoun-correctly.html
>>
>> "Step 5
>>
>>       Learn the one exception-linking verbs and verb phrases ending in
>> be, being, and been. Any time a pronoun immediately follows a linking
>> verb such as am, is, are, was ,were, and will be, or phrases ending in
>> be, being, and been, use a subjective case pronoun.
>>
>>       That is, use a subjective case pronoun--I,we, you, he, she, it,
>> and they--after these verbs.
>>
>>       In the following example, notice the placement of the pronouns
> he
>> and she in relation to the linking verb "is" and verb phrase "could
> have
>> been."
>>
>>       Example 1: Tom answered the phone, "This is he." Example 2; It
>> could have been she who stole the merchandise."
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> William
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:43 -0400, George Carless wrote:
>> > > The problem is not you and I.  The problem is that you can't
> "sell" Linux
>> >
>> > "you and me."
>> >
>> > Thank you. carry on.
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