[ale] GO Windows!!! ;-)

[Lightner, Jeff]

I reckon that's plain wrong - Just because "ain't" is in common use it
ain't proper English.   "It is me" may be common but there ain't no
arguments for it being proper English so there ain't no arguments on
both sides.  Youse is either right or y'all is wrong but you'uns can't
have it both ways.

(waits for the comments about "ain't no" being a double negative...)

-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
George Carless
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:38 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
Subject: Re: [ale] GO Windows!!! ;-)

William Fragakis (william at fragakis.com) wrote the following on Sun, Jun
27, 2010 at 10:09:35AM -0400:
> bzzzt.
> 
> Nope. "Is" is a linking verb - hence, it has no object. Most
> traditionalists would say the original poster, indeed, used the proper
> usage. e.g. You wouldn't say "Who is her?" instead of "Who is she?"

I should never have jumped into this, and apologies for the pedantry.
And, technically, 
you're quite right, although there's a lot of argument on either side
(and, 
idiomatically, "and me" is far more natural than "and I.") For my part I
feel that "it 
is me" works differently from "I am it;" while you're right that nobody
would say "who 
is her" or, indeed, "I is the problem," nor would anybody say "The
problem is I" or 
"See the person arguing an unwinnable argument in an off-topic fashion?
That person is 
I."  "I" doesn't agree with "is," while "me" does.  As it were.

Cheers,
George

> http://www.myenglishteacher.net/linkingwordsandpronouns.html
> 
> or better:
> http://www.ehow.com/how_2148233_choose-pronoun-correctly.html
> 
> "Step 5
> 
>       Learn the one exception-linking verbs and verb phrases ending in
> be, being, and been. Any time a pronoun immediately follows a linking
> verb such as am, is, are, was ,were, and will be, or phrases ending in
> be, being, and been, use a subjective case pronoun.
> 
>       That is, use a subjective case pronoun--I,we, you, he, she, it,
> and they--after these verbs.
> 
>       In the following example, notice the placement of the pronouns
he
> and she in relation to the linking verb "is" and verb phrase "could
have
> been."
> 
>       Example 1: Tom answered the phone, "This is he." Example 2; It
> could have been she who stole the merchandise."
> 
> 
> regards,
> William
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:43 -0400, George Carless wrote:
> > > The problem is not you and I.  The problem is that you can't
"sell" Linux
> > 
> > "you and me."
> > 
> > Thank you. carry on.
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