[ale] OT: Forget Comcast, I wanna move to Germany!
James P. Kinney III
jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
Thu Apr 5 14:30:06 EDT 2007
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 14:11 -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> You forgot NSA.
There is No Such Agency :) Move along. Nothing to see here.
>
>
> I loved it when it was revealed that phone companies were turning over
> call records to the NSA without warrant so the NSA could "mine" the
> information. Most telecoms denied they were doing it. AT&T instead
> immediately changed their "privacy" policy to say THEY own YOUR data and
> can do what they want with it. What gets me is that everyone didn't
> immediately drop their AT&T service. Now that AT&T owns all of
> Cingular and BellSouth we should all dump those services until they
> realize who the customer is.
It is nearly impossible to avoid using ATT systems for communications.
Now that they own backbone, last-mile and wireless, and more importantly
assembled that collection out of the pieces they were forced to split
off 20+ years ago, nearly all other providers have to run at least some
portion of their bandwidth through ATT owned hardware. Thus the
non-existent agency already has access to all the pr0n you download
using your neighbors unsecured wireless access and cable modem...
>
> Where does HP play into it? (More than Dell, IBM or others that is?)
HP was a big mover in the development of the initial DARPA net. They are
one of the few companies that has their own class A network. Actually it
may be more than one class A network. I don't remember. They are still a
big player in backend stuff for data (Agilent, while not a subsidiary
but a major partnership that HP manages the data for, handles massive
health care data flow among other things) from a wide variety of players
from medical to financial to military and enterprise business.
It is a travesty that HP is now mostly a commodity seller and ink
company. Yee Haw for modern business management practices.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> James P. Kinney III
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:38 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Forget Comcast, I wanna move to Germany!
>
> For the US, that would be the DoD/ATT/HP/etc.
>
> On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 13:07 -0400, Brian Stanaland wrote:
> > No matter how high my taxes are I don't want the government providing
> > for, paying for or even subsidizing my access to information and
> > communications. Whoever pays the bill controls the access and by
> > extension what information is transmitted.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 4/4/07, James P. Kinney III <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 16:27 -0400, Jay Finch wrote:
> > > Well, as I understand the way that German Telekom works, the
> > > government also subsidizes most of their services and folks
> > living in
> > > Germany pay a higher tax rate to support it (amongst other
> > Government
> > > programs).
> > >
> > > So (if I'm understanding things correctly) how would you
> > like to pay a
> > > 50% (or higher) tax rate in order to have those advanced
> > services?
> > > I'll take my 25% bracket (for now, unless we get a
> > consumption-based
> > > tax like FairTax) and be happy for now. :)
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > Jay
> >
> > Run the taxes through the roof if I can get a better school
> > system and
> > better public sector services. There are still loads of rich
> > folks
> > making scads of $$ (sorry - don't have the Euro symbol in
> > front of me)
> > so the higher tax rate can't possibly be killing off business
> > like the
> > whining shift the tax burden to the non-voting people - our
> > kids and
> > grand kids - keep claiming. Maybe we should up the death tax
> > and kill
> > 'em off early to pay off the bills they have run up.
> >
> > Didn't we get in a little war around 1776 over "No taxation
> > without
> > representation"?
> >
> > Gad! What a rant even from me. Maybe I shouldn't eat pepperoni
> > pizza
> > before I hit ALE mail...
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