[ale] OT: OT OT OT and very long! Anybody sick today?

George Johnson gljay at netzero.net
Tue Dec 30 22:42:04 EST 2003


Greg wrote:

>I think what Rhiannon is getting towards is a diet that was put forth by
>Dean Ornish, MD who is not a fan of Dr. Atkins.  Ornish was suggested to me
>by a friend who is also a MD and what is written in Ornish's book "Eat More,
>Weigh Less" makes common sense.  He (Ornish) talks about the difference
>between simple and complex carbs and how many confuse the two and set
>themselves up for disaster.  Cholesterol, insulin, and heart disease are
>also discussed.  Ornish also uses studies to support his position and to
>refute others (i.e. no proof Atkins diet works w/o damage and many studies
>label it a "nightmare") as opposed to bullshit pseudo-science.  Ornish also
>touts a way of eating that is a way of living and not a temporary diet - in
>all a more holistic (or systemic for those of an engineering bent) approach.
>250 recipes are included, but they are more fancy restaurant and less Kroger
>to be really practical.
>
>I am sorry about the lack of details (I wanted to put in some excerpts from
>the book) but I have been typing so much today that I have reached the point
>where I am spending more time editing errors then typing. The reason ? -
>trying to get a decent OS on my SunBlade 100. Debian CD's are a no-go and no
>one but Sun & Solaris can get the dammed floppy drive to work.  What a
>dichotomy of architecture - the best and worst in one box.
>
>Greg
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org]On Behalf Of
>>Eichler, Paula J.
>>Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:20 PM
>>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>>Subject: RE: [ale] OT: OT OT OT and very long! Anybody sick today?
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>>Rhiannon, thanks for all of the information. Agreed that most of the
>>"carbs" of today are crap, however, Atkins, et. al. aren't really "high
>>protein" but are "low carb".
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>>Another misconception is that you can't eat fruits and veggies.  Not so.
>>White sugar and flour are no-no's, but lettuce is a freebie, and after
>>the first weeks, adding raw veggies is allowed.  Later you can add most
>>fruits, especially the berries.  Nuts are allowed. Starchy vegetables
>>are reduced, but allowed in very small quantities.  Whole grains are OK
>>in moderation, but it can be difficult to find breads that you would
>>actually want to eat.  Nature's Own has come out with a pretty good
>>low-carb wheat bread.
>>
>>After awhile on it, I would guess that the maintenance Atkins diet is
>>more like a caveman diet than the "food pyramid".  Meats, nuts and
>>berries are about all that hunting and gathering will provide. Well, yea
>>and insects, which I am sure would be allowed under Atkins ;) ..pj
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You might try the "Blood Type" diet.  It is geared differently depending 
on the persons blood type.  Adkins is not good for A type for instance.  
They are unhealthy on red meats.  Google search it  or for Dr Peter D. 
Adamo.




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