[ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list

Christopher Fowler cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Mon Dec 29 08:24:58 EST 2003


On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 08:17, Matthew Brown wrote:
> A good WYSIWYG HTML editor and a more excellent graphics editor wouldn't
> hurt either.
> 
> I like the text-based editors fine, but WYSIWYG will bring on the masses
> of web folk.  Along with that, we need something like a PhotoShop or PSP
> on Linux.  IMHO, the Gimp is just not there, as good as it is.  Maybe
> someone should talk to their Adobe contacts on these.
> 

I use Photoshop to edit large images.  It appears that Gimp for some
reasons uses too much memory when working with large images.  I have to
add extra swap when dealing with 1200dpi images.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
> Christopher Fowler
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:12 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list
> 
> 
> A decent CRM like ACT! or GoldMine needs to be written also.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 08:08, walter Sams wrote:
> > Geoffrey has a good reply to the MS marketer
> > 
> > A cattle rancher should not feed the wolves hoping they will leave.
> > >From my business perspective, all linux needs to take over the 
> > >desktop
> > now is a fax program to compete with winfax.  Once someone is able to 
> > write this and make it available for under 400.00 There will be no 
> > need to buy MS products to run an office.  Then let them show me how 
> > they will save me money instead of bleeding me dry with licensing, 
> > upgrades and support.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 09:53, David Corbin wrote:
> > > I'm with Geoffrey on this.  MS business policy/strategy is to lock 
> > > their
> > > customers in.  I don't see how telling them what we want is going to
> convince 
> > > them to change.   All you're doing is telling them WHERE they should
> be 
> > > locking their customers in.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Friday 19 December 2003 09:33, Chris Ricker wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Geoffrey wrote:
> > > > > I'll let you know.  I'll give you my perspective.  I personally 
> > > > > see Microsoft as a marketing company that tries to write 
> > > > > software.  You'll not get a lot of pleasant responses from me 
> > > > > or, I suspect from this group.
> > > >
> > > > My take is a bit different than yours, Geoffrey. Let the man post 
> > > > his survey and we can tell him what we'd like from Microsoft.
> > > >
> > > > What I'd like from MS is true interoperability. Open formats, open
> 
> > > > standards, open protocols. Changing this would not hurt MS sales, 
> > > > either. The world already has all the MS-only shops it's going to 
> > > > get. For the rest of us in the real world working in multivendor 
> > > > environments, dealing with MS proprietary lockin is extremely 
> > > > expensive and painful, and hurts MS sales in such environments. We
> 
> > > > actively look for open solutions just because we have to integrate
> 
> > > > with everything from Windows to Linux to other Unix to mainframes.
> 
> > > > MS products don't get considered very long with such needs because
> 
> > > > they're not suitable.
> > > >
> > > > later,
> > > > chris
> > > >
> > > > PS In case it's not clear, by open I mean standard, documented, 
> > > > and unencumbered by patents, not necessarily free or open source. 
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