[ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list

[Matthew Brown]

A good WYSIWYG HTML editor and a more excellent graphics editor wouldn't
hurt either.

I like the text-based editors fine, but WYSIWYG will bring on the masses
of web folk.  Along with that, we need something like a PhotoShop or PSP
on Linux.  IMHO, the Gimp is just not there, as good as it is.  Maybe
someone should talk to their Adobe contacts on these.



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-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of
Christopher Fowler
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:12 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list


A decent CRM like ACT! or GoldMine needs to be written also.


On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 08:08, walter Sams wrote:
> Geoffrey has a good reply to the MS marketer
> 
> A cattle rancher should not feed the wolves hoping they will leave.
> >From my business perspective, all linux needs to take over the 
> >desktop
> now is a fax program to compete with winfax.  Once someone is able to 
> write this and make it available for under 400.00 There will be no 
> need to buy MS products to run an office.  Then let them show me how 
> they will save me money instead of bleeding me dry with licensing, 
> upgrades and support.
> 
> On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 09:53, David Corbin wrote:
> > I'm with Geoffrey on this.  MS business policy/strategy is to lock 
> > their
> > customers in.  I don't see how telling them what we want is going to
convince 
> > them to change.   All you're doing is telling them WHERE they should
be 
> > locking their customers in.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday 19 December 2003 09:33, Chris Ricker wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Geoffrey wrote:
> > > > I'll let you know.  I'll give you my perspective.  I personally 
> > > > see Microsoft as a marketing company that tries to write 
> > > > software.  You'll not get a lot of pleasant responses from me 
> > > > or, I suspect from this group.
> > >
> > > My take is a bit different than yours, Geoffrey. Let the man post 
> > > his survey and we can tell him what we'd like from Microsoft.
> > >
> > > What I'd like from MS is true interoperability. Open formats, open

> > > standards, open protocols. Changing this would not hurt MS sales, 
> > > either. The world already has all the MS-only shops it's going to 
> > > get. For the rest of us in the real world working in multivendor 
> > > environments, dealing with MS proprietary lockin is extremely 
> > > expensive and painful, and hurts MS sales in such environments. We

> > > actively look for open solutions just because we have to integrate

> > > with everything from Windows to Linux to other Unix to mainframes.

> > > MS products don't get considered very long with such needs because

> > > they're not suitable.
> > >
> > > later,
> > > chris
> > >
> > > PS In case it's not clear, by open I mean standard, documented, 
> > > and unencumbered by patents, not necessarily free or open source. 
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