[ale] OT: Re: posting to Linux mail list

[Christopher Fowler]

Don't be so harsh ;).  At least give him some responses.

#1 POSIX
   Need I say more?

#2 A decent shell. 
   There are some people that use command line

#3 Management that does not require a GUI
   CLI mangement utilities




On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 08:53, Geoffrey wrote:
> I'll let you know.  I'll give you my perspective.  I personally see 
> Microsoft as a marketing company that tries to write software.  You'll 
> not get a lot of pleasant responses from me or, I suspect from this group.
> 
> What Microsoft does not understand is that many intelligent folks do not 
> like the way you (Microsoft) do business.  So, it would not matter much 
> if Microsoft were to make better products.  Your exclusionary 
> contractual efforts alienate many folks.  I dislike your products 
> because they are lousy.  I hate Microsoft because of the way they do 
> business.  There's a huge difference in dislike and hate.
> 
> The problem is, Microsoft misses the larger issue.  You folks need to 
> focus on doing business right, then worry about making your products 
> better.  You want help?  Publish the formats of the Office documents so 
> that Microsoft can truly provide an opportunity for competition.  Quit 
> locking technologies into your platform and locking others out.  Why 
> would anyone want to provide you people any assistance when you don't 
> reciprocate?  Are you folks really that clueless?
> 
> I personally would love to see Microsoft crash and burn, and am looking 
> forward to it.  So, you'll not get any assistance from me.  We'll see 
> what the balance of the group thinks...
> 
> Oh, by the way.  Many folks think of Linux users as young college 
> hackers with nothing better to do.  I personally spent 26 years with 
> AT&T, 5 of which were with the Labs.  Extensive software development 
> experience.  I have since left AT&T and have started my own consulting 
> business.  Doing my best to educate people regarding their choices of 
> products.  Just finished setting up a Linux file server for a property 
> management company that had been an all Microsoft shop. The are looking 
> very hard at Linux desktops with OpenOffice.  It will save them a lot of 
> money and a lot of headaches.
> 
> For those of you on the ALE list, feel free to let Mr. Surkan know how 
> you would like to assist Microsoft in extending their monopoly...
> 
> Michael Surkan wrote:
> > I am a program manager in the Microsoft networking group, doing some
> > research around how we can improve our operating systems. My goal is to
> > help us identify capabilities, improvements, and features that Microsoft
> > should be focusing on to help our customers over the next 5 years or so.
> > I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux users, and get their
> > input about what they feel should be priorities.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I was wondering if you would mind if I posted a message on your Linux
> > mailing list (ale at ale.org) asking for feedback? I want to ask for people
> > to e-mail me directly if they would be interested in taking an on-line
> > survey I have put together (sorry, I don't want to post the survey URL
> > directly to the public).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > If you don't feel this is an appropriate use of your list, that's fine.
> > Of course, I am always eager to hear your thoughts if you wanted to
> > share them. :-)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Michael Surkan
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > P.S. If it's ok for me to post to your distribution list, what is the
> > best way I should do that? Is there an e-mail address you recommend I
> > use?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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