[ale] Resume

Fri Oct 25 10:16:36 EDT 2002

  Sounds like we're the flip side of the coin as I had atleast 3 recruiter
in the first week tell mey they couldn't take anything unless it was
.doc and couldn't take the time to convert it.  Yes it's a BS answer but
I got that many times over 3 months.  When I get a first level phone
interview I offer to send my original resume in a non-word format so
they can see the original since I "dont know what they did to it and
only convert it to .doc on request".  This also helps with the
anti-MS-at-all-costs types (which I'm almost one).

Thus spake James P. Kinney III (jkinney at localnetsolutions.com):

> Subject: Re: [ale] Resume
> From: "James P. Kinney III" <jkinney at localnetsolutions.com>
> To: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris at rdlg.net>
> Cc: Atlanta Linux "User Group (E-mail)" <ale at ale.org>
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) 
> Date: 25 Oct 2002 10:11:14 -0400
> 
> I lost my job over a year ago. I send out resumes at the rate of 50-100
> per week. I regularly enclose multiple copies, text, pdf, html, rtf are
> my usual formats. Any recruiter who actually HAS a real job they are
> trying to fill, will do ANYTHING to get that position filled. Even open
> a pdf document. Nearly every machine can read pdfs. It preserves the
> formatting exactly as I wrote it.
> 
> I used to send .doc as requested. Until I was turned down for a position
> because the .doc format I sent (through a recruiter) showed up infected
> with a macro virus. They (the hiring company) decided I didn't know
> enough about systems to avoid getting a virus. I wrote the resume in
> OpenOffice.org (943c) and saved it as a .doc at the request of the
> recruiter. 
> 
> It will be a very cold day in hell before I send another resume as a
> .doc.
> 
> On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 09:52, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'm reading all the responses to this guy and getting miffed as I can
> > imagine he probably is.
> > 
> > When you are out of work or likely to be and you NEED a job you do what
> > the recruiters want, you don't "tell them" to do anything like install
> > acrobat, etc.  You don't "tell them" to use a different format.
> > 
> > When you make their life hard they can your resume and write you off.
> > Most recruiters got very spoiled in the .com boom because they got big
> > fees for doing nothing more than send emails.  Now they have to try and
> > figure out things they either forgot or didn't know in the first place.
> > 
> > Those sitting in nice happy jobs stop and think how you'd be if you
> > "needed a job".  I don't know his situation of if he's at this point but
> > I do know what I'm talking about as I was there just recently.
> > 
> > 
> > Tom, use abiword and the rtf, just email it to the recruiter as an
> > attachment.  When they ask why it's not in .doc, tell them it's from a
> > M$ office beta product, they should get it in 2 years, but their word
> > will read it just fine.
> > 
> > Another option if you have a copy of word around is to get
> > codeweavers.com office platform, it works very well and is what I use
> > when someone "needs" something in .doc.
> > 
> > Last but least, write it up in rtf and find someone to convert it for
> > ya.
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > 
> > *snip*
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 23:07, tom wrote:
> > > > I have posted this before, but I need some input. I am looking for a
> > > > job, non technical in nature and need a resume in .doc format. Abiword
> > > > does that, but you have to paste it into evolution. If I do it in HTML,
> > > > it loses it structure a lot of times. If I do it in vi, can I change the
> > > > font size and underline text, etc? Finally, using Windows is not an
> > > > option, as I do not own a copy and my recovery disk is lost.
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > :wq!
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Robert L. Harris                
> >                                
> > DISCLAIMER:
> >       These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
> > FYI:
> >  perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
> > 
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:wq!
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FYI:
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