[ale] Please help: BellSouth ADSL hangs with sendmail andup2date

James P. Kinney III jkinney at localnetsolutions.com
Mon Jul 22 11:16:49 EDT 2002


1. Has your free up2date access run out? It's only for 3 months and
RedHat is enforcing it. They have to. It's there livelihood.

2. Turn off the firewall and try again. up2date uses http ports 8080,
and https 8081 by default.

3. Is the RedHat up2date server refusing connection due to overload? Run
up2date from a command line with the -nox flag to disable the gui. Man
up2date is concise (as always) but complete.

4. BellSouth ADSL will be slower than the max rated AT&T cable. There is
some overhead in software from the pppoe client. It's not much, though. 

5. Doublecheck the smtp smarthost line in /etc/sendmail.cf. You can't
send mail directly from your machine. Bellsouth finally figured out that
spam is started that way. Make sure you are using the correct host name
to act as your official mail forwarder.

6. Bellsouth has a NASTY habit of caching web pages. Since up2date uses
a web port, Bellsouth may be caching the stuff and thus, you get
garbage. FTP the updates from gatech and run rpm -Fvh *.rpm in the
directory you put the ftp'ed rpm's in. When I was on Bellsouth ADSL and
testing a web application, I had loads of headaches with the caching
issue. I was able to work around it since I wrote the application and
could add session ID's to the url. But it sure made it look ugly.

On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 22:08, Chuck Mattern wrote:
> I'm in the process of switching from AT&T Broadband to BellSouth ADSL and have
> got everything working two glaring exceptions: sendmail and up2date.  Getting 
> help with anything Linux from BellSouth is a waste of time so I'm appealing to 
> the group.
> 
> I've got one of the Alcatel Speed Touch Home units and have tried a number of
> Linux based firewalls. I started with a RH6.2/ipchains machine, when I found
> that up2date was hanging I tried upgrading to RH7.3/iptables, when this
> exhibited the same problem I tried implementing IPCop.  All have the same
> problem.  I decided to just cut over and update my machines manually, once I
> cut over I found that outbound sendmail is giving me trouble as well.  To
> ensure that the problem is not with my Linux configs I put a spare disk in the
> OBSD firewall on the AT&T side and installed IPCop with the same patches and
> setting as on the BellSouth side, it works flawlessly.  The speed seemed fine
> but I tested it just to be sure, on the AT&T side I get 1,431kbps download and
> 228kbps  and the BellSouth side is about 10% less (I had trouble getting some
> of the tests to complete as well).  Both the reading and the problems take
> place with an otherwise idle connection.
> 
> In both cases the connection is established then stops.  I have some more 
> detailed output below, please read on if you can help.  Any thoughts would be 
> appreciated.
> 
> With up2date the program starts but never pulls up the gui, eventually it fails
> with this message:
> 
> # up2date
> Error communicating with server.  The message was:
> EOF
> #
> 
> While it's running I can see the connection in the output of netstat:
> 
> # netstat -a|grep redhat tcp        0   2589 gryphon:43989           xmlrpc.rhn.redhat:https ESTABLISHED
> #
> 
> And the firewall shows the connection properly masqueraded:
> 
> TCP  149:33.40 192.168.1.1          216.148.218.165      43989 (61061) -> 443
> 
> In the case of sendmail jobs go into the queue fine but get deferred:
> 
> ]# sendmail -bp
>                 /var/spool/mqueue (3 requests)
> ----Q-ID---- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
> g6LDinu01736*    4182 Sun Jul 21 09:44 <cmattern at gryphon>
>                  (Deferred: Connection reset by mx06.mail.bellsouth.net.)
>                                        <xxx at xxx.xxx>
> g6LDoY001808     2332 Sun Jul 21 09:50 <cmattern at gryphon>
>                  (reply: read error from mx06.mail.bellsouth.net.)
>                                        <xxx at xxx.xxx>
> g6L5tOu21441     2773 Sun Jul 21 01:55 <cmattern at gryphon>
>                  (reply: read error from mx07.mail.bellsouth.net.)
>                                        <xxx at xxx.xxx>
> #
> 
> If I try to run the queue manually here's what I get (FWIW each of the hangs 
> depicted below lasts for about 10-15 minutes before losing the connection):
> 
> # sendmail -v -q
> 
> Running /var/spool/mqueue/g6LDinu01736 (sequence 1 of 3)
> g6LDinu01736: locked
> 
> Running /var/spool/mqueue/g6LDoY001808 (sequence 2 of 3)
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Connecting to mx07.mail.bellsouth.net. via relay...
> 421 imf17bis.bellsouth.net connection refused from [67.33.179.119]
> >>> QUIT
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Connecting to mx04.mail.bellsouth.net. via relay...
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Closing connection to mx07.mail.bellsouth.net.
> 220 mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP server (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) ready Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:20:40 -0400
> >>> EHLO gryphon.myth.bellsouth.net
> 250-imf01bis.bellsouth.net
> 250-HELP
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-DSN
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250 SIZE 10485760
> >>> MAIL From:<cmattern at bellsouth.net> SIZE=2348
> 250 Sender <cmattern at bellsouth.net> and extensions (SIZE=2348) Ok
> >>> RCPT To:<xxx at xxx.xxx>
> 250 Recipient <xxx at xxx.xxx> Ok
> >>> DATA
> 354 Ok Send data ending with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> >>> .
> 421 imf01bis.bellsouth.net Lost connection to [67.33.179.119]
> >>> QUIT
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Connecting to mx01.mail.bellsouth.net. via relay...
> 220 mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP server (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) ready Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:25:41 -0400
> >>> EHLO gryphon.myth.bellsouth.net
> 250-imf09bis.bellsouth.net
> 250-HELP
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-DSN
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250 SIZE 10485760
> >>> MAIL From:<cmattern at bellsouth.net> SIZE=2348
> 250 Sender <cmattern at bellsouth.net> and extensions (SIZE=2348) Ok
> >>> RCPT To:<xxx at xxx.xxx>
> 250 Recipient <xxx at xxx.xxx> Ok
> >>> DATA
> 354 Ok Send data ending with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> >>> .
> 421 imf09bis.bellsouth.net Lost connection to [67.33.179.119]
> >>> QUIT
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Connecting to mx03.mail.bellsouth.net. via relay...
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Closing connection to mx04.mail.bellsouth.net.
> >>> QUIT
> 220 mail.bellsouth.net ESMTP server (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) ready Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:30:41 -0400
> >>> EHLO gryphon.myth.bellsouth.net
> 250-imf05bis.bellsouth.net
> 250-HELP
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-DSN
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250 SIZE 10485760
> >>> MAIL From:<cmattern at bellsouth.net> SIZE=2348
> 250 Sender <cmattern at bellsouth.net> and extensions (SIZE=2348) Ok
> >>> RCPT To:<xxx at xxx.xxx>
> 250 Recipient <xxx at xxx.xxx> Ok
> >>> DATA
> 354 Ok Send data ending with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
> >>> .
> 421 imf05bis.bellsouth.net Lost connection to [67.33.179.119]
> >>> QUIT
> <xxx at xxx.xxx>... Connecting to mx05.mail.bellsouth.net. via relay...
> 
> -- 
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> |Chuck Mattern	        | "People often find it easier to be a result |
> |camattern at acm.org      | of the past than a cause of the future."    |
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