[ale] need some input on tv capture cards

Calvin Harrigan charrig at earthlink.net
Fri Dec 27 08:50:19 EST 2002


It allows you to connect your computer to the TV.

Calvin...


On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 21:16, Geoffrey wrote:
> John Wells wrote:
> > Found a note at http://www.freeplaytv.org/ that says I'll need a VGA to
> > NTSC convertor because the video-out on a video card results in poor video
> > quality.  I currently have a Geforce2 card with S-video out.
> > 
> > Anyone know if I'll truly need the vga-2-ntsc, or can I get by without?
> > They're rather pricey at $95.00.
> 
> Okay, I'm confused.  Where would you use this device?  The capture card 
> takes data straight from either s-video or rca.  How does the vga 
> connector come into play??
> 
> You can capture without having the VGA come into play at all.
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > James P. Kinney III said:
> > 
> >>I would bet that it will take a full 640x480 but at a lower frame rate.
> >>Video capture is something that requires some serious hardware to get
> >>good quality.
> >>
> >>$50 retail is only a $20 card.
> >>
> >>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 18:04, John Wells wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hmmm...
> >>>
> >>>At least when it comes to the ATI, the user manual says you can choose
> >>>from 4 presets when viewing (page 21 in
> >>>http://mirror.ati.com/support/manualpdf/WonderVE.pdf):
> >>>
> >>>180x120
> >>>240x180
> >>>320x240
> >>>640x480
> >>>
> >>>Now, does this mean it will take a lesser resolution and "stretch",
> >>>resulting in poorer picture quality?  I'm a newbie when it comes to
> >>>this ;-).
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>James P. Kinney III said:
> >>>
> >>>>Hmm. Capture cards in the $50 range are pretty weak. You will not be
> >>>
> >>>happy with the screen quality if viewed full screen on a tv. Neither
> >>>of the two you listed will do 640x480 capture. 320x240 seems to be
> >>>the max for the low end cards.
> >>>
> >>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 15:05, John Wells wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>My plan is to setup a PVR system using x10's entertainment anywhere
> >>>
> >>>and a tv capture card.  The x10 package will allow me to transmit
> >>>the signal from my machine upstairs to the television down.  I'll
> >>>also likely use the card to watch a game or two while hacking ;-).
> >>>
> >>>>>It just occurred to me after James' post to check stereo sound.
> >>>
> >>>Neither card has it.  I may hold off and try to find one that does.
> >>>
> >>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Calvin Harrigan said:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Thu, 2002-12-26 at 14:41, John Wells wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Have a gift certificate from Circuit City, and want to pick up a
> >>>
> >>>tv
> >>>
> >>>>>capture card tonight.  Their site lists two available:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>ATI Tech Wonder VE TV Card
> >>>>>>>Brand/Model: ATE 100703102CCS
> >>>>>>>$49.99
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hauppauge PCI Card "WinTV Go"
> >>>>>>>Brand/Model: HAU 190
> >>>>>>>$49.99
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Anyone have experience with these?  Linux friendly?  Which would
> >>>>>
> >>>>>you recommend?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>They both work. Both use the bt878 chipset.
> >>>>>>I lean towards the Hauppauge cards though...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If you don't mind me asking what do you plan on doing with it?
> >>>
> >>>Just
> >>>
> >>>>>to watch tv, video cap, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Calvin...
> >>>>>>
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