[ale] Capture "devices" ?

cfowler cfowler at outpostsentinel.com
Tue Dec 3 09:14:09 EST 2002 

Because I do not suggest you getting a device that does 320x280 or
something similar.  That is tiny and will look horrible when replayed. 
It will look bad if you try to play full screen on you computer or even
as a VCD or DVD.  




On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 09:08, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> 
> 
> What do you suggest in Firewire?  I don't need production quality right
> now but I'd like something that'll look decent when I replay it in 2
> years, or when the boys are old enough to be embarrased by it.
> 
> 
> Thus spake cfowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):
> 
> > Subject: Re: [ale] Capture "devices" ?
> > From: cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> > To: ale at ale.org
> > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) 
> > Date: 03 Dec 2002 09:03:19 -0500
> > 
> > I think there are some capture devices that are Firewire based. that you
> > can hook RCA into.  
> > 
> > I purchased a PCI card once and felt that it was useless due to the
> > crappy nature of the captures.  I had to capture small to get high frame
> > rates.  Then it look really bad on TV when I converted to VCD.
> > 
> > This device you are looking at, I believe is the USB Dazzle at $69.  I
> > would look on ebay first and get a used one.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:58, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Doesn't a firewire capture device require a firewire camera, etc?
> > > I've got a cam corder and web cam, both have RCA and Svideo outputs.  I
> > > don't have the budget right now to go buy a camera also, just a card and
> > > preferably a semi-cheap one ($100-$150 range).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thus spake cfowler (cfowler at outpostsentinel.com):
> > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [ale] Capture "devices" ?
> > > > From: cfowler <cfowler at outpostsentinel.com>
> > > > To: ale at ale.org
> > > > X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) 
> > > > Date: 03 Dec 2002 08:49:05 -0500
> > > > 
> > > > Stop for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hopefully some people here have experience with this.  I'm in the
> > > > process of using Firewire DV to do my capture.  I just ordered a cable
> > > > to go from my DV Camera to PC and am not looking for software that runs
> > > > in XP that does a *good* job of capture.
> > > > 
> > > > That usb device is a 1.0 device.  It will only do 30fps at a low
> > > > resolution.  At higher resolutions you'll get far fewer FPS.  USB 1.0
> > > > just does not have the bandwidht the keep up with the amount of data
> > > > that comes from the VCR, TV, Camera, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > I want 720x480 @ 30fps resolution.  I will not settil for anything less
> > > > and USB does not offer it.  Firewire is the way to go.  USB 2.0 may do
> > > > it.
> > > > The worst device would be USB then PCI Card, and finally IEEE 1394 DV. 
> > > > So get the IEEE if possible.  If not look at a PCI card.  Stay away from
> > > > the UWB device.  Maybe others have input but this it what I found.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm torn between Dazzle and Pinnacle software to do my capturing.  I'm
> > > > not looking for fancy stuff I just want good quality captures to go to
> > > > VCD and DCD.
> > > > 
> > > > Chris
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:34, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I'm looking to pickup a capture card/device on the way home today.
> > > > > While scouting CompUSA for parts the other day I found a cute little USB
> > > > > booger that looked like just wires going to a usb port, no "card" which
> > > > > would work very well for me as my USB ports are on the front and
> > > > > plugging in different cams, webcams, etc will be a real pain on my
> > > > > system right now.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   It lists Win98 compatable but I'm running 2k/Debian Unstable on my
> > > > > desktop.  Has anyone seen this thing?
> > > > > (http://www.startech.com/ststore/searchframe.asp?product_desc=capture&Description=Search+Results&Topbar=true)
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Any other suggestions that are relatively cheap?  I'd like to convert
> > > > > home movies of the kidlets to mpeg that I can send to the grandparrents
> > > > > as well as run a web cam off it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Robert
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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