[ale] SELF-2022 is on!

[Bob Toxen]

Good to know.

It is IMPORTANT to note that you may NOT carry a firearm or other weapon
(including a knife) into a Federal building, including an outhouse in
a Federal park or a post office.

Be aware that Massachusetts and NY have very strict gun laws including
transporting them.  Not clear if driving THROUGH either state subjects
someone.

Never give consent for a police officer to search your vehicle.  If your
child's friend's joint fell out of his or her pocket YOU get arrested.

Bob

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 04:25:54PM -0400, Solomon Peachy via Ale wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 03:46:13PM -0400, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:
> > Thanks for the information. I had *thought* I heard during one of those
> > "legal facts you should know about firearms" classes that the parking
> > lot counts as part of the property and you can't park in the lot with a
> > locked and concealed firearm in your car. It's good to know that's not
> > true.
> 
> A couple of years ago they amended this to make it even stronger -- IIRC 
> to prevent employers from being able to ask, search, or retaliate 
> against folks over exercising this right.  (My former employer was one 
> of those, incidently)
> 
> There are some exceptions -- notably including school property (I'm 
> kinda shocked DeSantis hasn't added this to his "parental rights 
> WRRRGRBL!!!11" platform yet) and the usual hazardous environments and so 
> forth.
> 
> > Oh geez, at that same seminar I thought I heard that you can't even
> > stop at 7-Eleven for a Diet Coke, unless you have a concealed carry
> > permit. Thanks for the update on this too.
> 
> It's worth mentioning that it's an affirmative defense, not something 
> that would necessarily prevent local law enforcement from trying to make 
> an example of you, should you give them probable cause [1].
> 
> Also, that federal law doesn't cover overnight stays along the way.  
> Hotels can tell you "no firearms" even when local laws allow it, but 
> there's not usually any way they can enforce it, beyond asking you to 
> leave.
> 
> But realistically, since all of this is within the Gun^H^H^HBible belt, 
> you're gonna be fine.  FFS, GA made permitless carry legal a month ago. :)
> 
> [1] IIRC in South Carolina the highway patrol can pull you over for 
>     "suspiciously driving the speed limit" -- because it turned out that 
>     just about the only ones _not_ speeding were the drug mules...
> 
>  - Solomon
> -- 
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