[ale] dd vs clonezilla to replace hard drive
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Fri Dec 30 19:38:12 EST 2022
Just an old poster
Windows work best when open or at least with a large X
:-)
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 7:35 PM Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> wow, a real old post just surfaced! :)
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> If the disk has a windows install on it, isn't that already a fail?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 4:00 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you clone disk that is almost to fail to new one and you don't want
>>> to waste 3-4 hours for installing necessary software.
>>>
>>> Talking Windows on production PC.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:59 Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for this. I've never had a case where a bitwise clone of a disk was
>>>> needed
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:57 Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or do the best method and do a fresh install of your fav distro and
>>>>> use the old disk as your data backup and copy over your home for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming your distro has a package manager, just export a list of
>>>>> installed packages to make sure you get them all in the new install.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes a "drive migration" makes sense in a business setting. Other
>>>>> than just for practice, it's basically a time waster for personal stuff and
>>>>> especially if the new drive is much larger that the old drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 1:06 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>>>> ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not run clozilla live CD and do this ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:02 Bob Toxen via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The critical thing is that the mounted partitions, especially the
>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>> partition (/) normally are changing. You will end up with corrupted
>>>>>>> partitions unless you allow for this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First boot single user mode:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Reboot the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. When it gets to the LILO stage hit the shift button to stop the
>>>>>>> countdown to auto-boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Hit tab to see what kernels to boot and determine the right one,
>>>>>>> say "Linux"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Key "Linux single" RETURN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Login (to single user mode).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6. Do "mount" and umount all the disk file systems except the root
>>>>>>> fs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7. Remount the root fs thusly:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mount -o remount,ro /dev/something /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8. Test that it really is mounted read only:
>>>>>>> Do:
>>>>>>> touch /root/foo
>>>>>>> Expect:
>>>>>>> Error: read only file system (or similar)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If using other boot loaders do similar. Alternatively, on some
>>>>>>> distros
>>>>>>> you can do:
>>>>>>> tcsh:
>>>>>>> setenv RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>>> sh/bash:
>>>>>>> tcsh
>>>>>>> env RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do that dd very carefully as botching it trashes your existing
>>>>>>> disk:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dd bs=10240k if=/dev/your-source-disk
>>>>>>> of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>>> fsck -f of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might want to expand the lask partition to enjoy your additional
>>>>>>> space by using GNU parted or similar:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/features.shtml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or you can add new partitions after the end of the last one with
>>>>>>> fdisk
>>>>>>> or similar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check for typos before using above notes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 05:35:34PM -0700, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
>>>>>>> > Format the new one and rsync.
>>>>>>> > Unless this is a boot drive then dd the boot sector and /boot
>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022, 5:29 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>>>>>> ale at ale.org>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Friends:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > I bought a new SSD drive of the size 512GB the inland brand from
>>>>>>> > > Microcenter.
>>>>>>> > > I want to use that to replace my current laptop's 160 GB NON-SSD
>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Is it a good idea to use Clonezilla to make an img file of the
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> > > disk and restore to the new SSD ?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > OR
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Is it faster and best to run the dd command and replicate
>>>>>>> bit-by-bit of
>>>>>>> > > the current drive to the new SSD drive ?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Please advise.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > -N
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