[ale] dd vs clonezilla to replace hard drive

Pete Hardie pete.hardie at gmail.com
Fri Dec 30 19:34:52 EST 2022


wow, a real old post just surfaced!  :)

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 7:06 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> If the disk has a windows install on it, isn't that already a fail?
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 4:00 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> If you clone disk that is almost to fail to new one and you don't want to
>> waste  3-4  hours for installing necessary software.
>>
>> Talking Windows on production PC.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:59 Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for this. I've never had a case where a bitwise clone of a disk was
>>> needed
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:57 Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or do the best method and do a fresh install of your fav distro and use
>>>> the old disk as your data backup and copy over your home for.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming your distro has a package manager, just export a list of
>>>> installed packages to make sure you get them all in the new install.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes a "drive migration" makes sense in a business setting. Other
>>>> than just for practice, it's basically a time waster for personal stuff and
>>>> especially if the new drive is much larger that the old drive.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 1:06 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>>> ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why not run clozilla live CD and do this ?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:02 Bob Toxen via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The critical thing is that the mounted partitions, especially the root
>>>>>> partition (/) normally are changing.  You will end up with corrupted
>>>>>> partitions unless you allow for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First boot single user mode:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   1. Reboot the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   2. When it gets to the LILO stage hit the shift button to stop the
>>>>>>      countdown to auto-boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   3. Hit tab to see what kernels to boot and determine the right one,
>>>>>>      say "Linux"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   4. Key "Linux single" RETURN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   5. Login (to single user mode).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   6. Do "mount" and umount all the disk file systems except the root
>>>>>> fs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   7. Remount the root fs thusly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        mount -o remount,ro /dev/something /
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   8. Test that it really is mounted read only:
>>>>>>      Do:
>>>>>>          touch /root/foo
>>>>>>      Expect:
>>>>>>          Error: read only file system (or similar)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   If using other boot loaders do similar.  Alternatively, on some
>>>>>> distros
>>>>>>   you can do:
>>>>>>     tcsh:
>>>>>>        setenv RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>>     sh/bash:
>>>>>>        tcsh
>>>>>>        env RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Do that dd very carefully as botching it trashes your existing disk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      dd bs=10240k if=/dev/your-source-disk
>>>>>> of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>>      fsck -f of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might want to expand the lask partition to enjoy your additional
>>>>>> space by using GNU parted or similar:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/features.shtml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you can add new partitions after the end of the last one with fdisk
>>>>>> or similar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check for typos before using above notes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 05:35:34PM -0700, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
>>>>>> > Format the new one and rsync.
>>>>>> > Unless this is a boot drive then dd the boot sector and /boot
>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022, 5:29 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>>>>> ale at ale.org>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Friends:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I bought a new SSD drive of the size 512GB the inland brand from
>>>>>> > > Microcenter.
>>>>>> > > I want to use that to replace my current laptop's 160 GB NON-SSD
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Is it a good idea to use Clonezilla to make an img file of the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> > > disk and restore to the new SSD ?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > OR
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Is it faster and best to run the dd command and replicate
>>>>>> bit-by-bit of
>>>>>> > > the current drive to the new SSD drive ?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Please advise.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > -N
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