[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?

Tue May 18 15:05:55 EDT 2021

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On May 18, 2021 1:59:03 PM EDT, Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>Allen,
>
>Your fear about Oracle is my fear about Red Hat. This developer account
>I
>have had, over three years old. At one point, you got a year free then
>it
>was $99 a year for one server. So what to say, Red Hat won't try again.
>Now
>that Big Blue owns it. That makes me worry more.
>
>On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:38 PM Allen Beddingfield via Ale
><ale at ale.org>
>wrote:
>
>> Actually, between Red Hat and Oracle, I would pick Oracle.  I have a
>> deeper dislike for Red Hat!  I've managed to keep Red Hat out of our
>> operation as much as possible, with only a handful of systems.  For
>Oracle,
>> you can just download it for free - even the UEK kernel and use it. 
>My
>> concern is that they will get people to using that heavily, and
>suddenly
>> kill the free option.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:19 PM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> Cc: Allen Beddingfield
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>>
>>
>> Allen
>>
>> I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I
>have
>> to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin
>up
>> stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it.
>>
>> Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal
>with
>> Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a
>replacement
>> for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my
>department
>> doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We
>were
>> told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have
>to
>> download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even
>when I
>> use VirtualBox.
>>
>> James
>>
>> Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed.
>> Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about
>updating. When
>> I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I
>loved
>> it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I
>would set
>> up SLE in my lab.
>>
>>
>> So why CentOS for me
>>
>> Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM )
>> Foreman ( Satellite 6 )
>> AWX ( Ansible Tower )
>>
>> Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) .
>>
>> These are my babies at work.
>>
>> To the group
>>
>> Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said
>anything
>> about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux.
>>
>> So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the
>chooses
>> are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now
>> Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using.
>>
>> Good stuff guys, thanks .
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale
><ale at ale.org
>> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
>> We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage
>> approximately 500 systems.  For licensing reasons, I have a separate
>Uyuni
>> installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.
>> I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it!  I don't
>even
>> really do much with actually writing Salt states.  I can accomplish
>most
>> everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions,
>then
>> using the config channels for push configs.
>> We also use it for push-patching.
>> Allen B.
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf
>of
>> James Taylor via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:10 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: James Taylor
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re:   [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?
>> I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I
>never
>> did any set up.
>> -jt
>>
>>
>> James Taylor
>> 678-697-9420
>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com<mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>>
>> That would be my go-to solution as well.  openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a
>great
>> setup.  I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf
>of
>> James Taylor via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:23 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: James Taylor
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale]  [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Why not openSUSE Leap?
>> Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?
>>
>>
>>
>> James Taylor
>> 678-697-9420
>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com<mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>>
>> I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the
>handful
>> of CentOS things we have.
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu<mailto:allen at ua.edu>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf
>of
>> Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:43 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: Chuck Payne
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my
>home
>> lab that I need to replace.  Thus the subject of my email, who is now
>the
>> true CentOS replacement?
>>
>> Has anyone tried it?
>>
>> I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like
>to
>> use something to replace CentOS.
>>
>> --
>>
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>Chuck "PUP" Payne
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