[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?

Tue May 18 13:59:03 EDT 2021

Allen,

Your fear about Oracle is my fear about Red Hat. This developer account I
have had, over three years old. At one point, you got a year free then it
was $99 a year for one server. So what to say, Red Hat won't try again. Now
that Big Blue owns it. That makes me worry more.

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:38 PM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org>
wrote:

> Actually, between Red Hat and Oracle, I would pick Oracle.  I have a
> deeper dislike for Red Hat!  I've managed to keep Red Hat out of our
> operation as much as possible, with only a handful of systems.  For Oracle,
> you can just download it for free - even the UEK kernel and use it.  My
> concern is that they will get people to using that heavily, and suddenly
> kill the free option.
>
>
> --
> Allen Beddingfield
> Systems Engineer
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> allen at ua.edu
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Chuck Payne <terrorpup at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> Cc: Allen Beddingfield
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?
>
>
>
> Allen
>
> I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I have
> to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin up
> stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it.
>
> Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal with
> Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a replacement
> for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my department
> doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We were
> told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have to
> download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even when I
> use VirtualBox.
>
> James
>
> Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed.
> Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about updating. When
> I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I loved
> it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I would set
> up SLE in my lab.
>
>
> So why CentOS for me
>
> Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM )
> Foreman ( Satellite 6 )
> AWX ( Ansible Tower )
>
> Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) .
>
> These are my babies at work.
>
> To the group
>
> Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said anything
> about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux.
>
> So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the chooses
> are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now
> Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using.
>
> Good stuff guys, thanks .
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage
> approximately 500 systems.  For licensing reasons, I have a separate Uyuni
> installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.
> I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it!  I don't even
> really do much with actually writing Salt states.  I can accomplish most
> everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions, then
> using the config channels for push configs.
> We also use it for push-patching.
> Allen B.
>
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>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf of
> James Taylor via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:10 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Cc: James Taylor
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re:   [ALE] So the winner is?
>
> Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?
> I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I never
> did any set up.
> -jt
>
>
> James Taylor
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com<mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
>
>
>
> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>>
> That would be my go-to solution as well.  openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a great
> setup.  I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?
>
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> Allen Beddingfield
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>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf of
> James Taylor via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:23 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Cc: James Taylor
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale]  [ALE] So the winner is?
>
> Why not openSUSE Leap?
> Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?
>
>
>
> James Taylor
> 678-697-9420
> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com<mailto:james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>
>
>
>
> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>>
> I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the handful
> of CentOS things we have.
>
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> Allen Beddingfield
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> The University of Alabama
> Office 205-348-2251
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>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> on behalf of
> Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:43 AM
> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
> Cc: Chuck Payne
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?
>
> Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my home
> lab that I need to replace.  Thus the subject of my email, who is now the
> true CentOS replacement?
>
> Has anyone tried it?
>
> I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like to
> use something to replace CentOS.
>
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