[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?

Tue May 18 13:35:06 EDT 2021

Niel,

openSUSE 15.3 is being pushed to be 100% compatible with SLE. I like that.

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:30 PM Niel Bornstein <nbornstein at gmail.com> wrote:

> FWIW, starting with SLE 15 SP3, openSUSE is going to be completely binary
> compatible with the enterprise product so there's no need for a developer
> subscription for SLE.
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:20 PM Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> Derek,
>>
>> 16 Seat is great, but I like to have more, and who's to say I can't renew
>> without a cost. Plus, I like to get something Free.  I worry about
>> licensing stuff on RHEL.
>>
>> DJ-Pfulio
>>
>> I use Debian ( No Ubuntu ) , but 90% of the servers are RHEL based. I
>> support openSUSE ( member), but my bread and butter is as a Red Hat admin.
>> The Dev Subscription is great, because CentOS didn't give you
>> experience with Subscription Manager. Plus, I need to rebuild my Spacewalk
>> Server. My old Spacewalk is on CentOS 7. Not political. I don't think I can
>> install Spacewalk on RHEL, I will try. Licensing is my worry, not
>> political. CentOS was great for using Dogtag, Keycloak)  FreeIPA, Foreman
>> and Spacewalk to learn on. RHEL you have to have licenses for IDM (
>> Dogtag/Keycloak/FreeIPA ) and Satellite ( Foreman/Spacewalk ).
>>
>> No Offense, Ubuntu still drives me up the wall because you do an
>> upgrade and things break. On all my Small  Board Computer, I look to see if
>> Armbian has a Debian base image to replace Ubuntu, just because doing
>> simple upgrade on Ubuntu 18 and 20, broke things and I had to start over.
>>
>> Allen
>>
>> I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I have
>> to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin up
>> stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it.
>>
>> Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal with
>> Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a replacement
>> for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my department
>> doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We were
>> told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have to
>> download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even when I
>> use VirtualBox.
>>
>> James
>>
>> Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed.
>> Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about updating. When
>> I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I loved
>> it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I would set
>> up SLE in my lab.
>>
>>
>> So why CentOS for me
>>
>> Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM )
>> Foreman ( Satellite 6 )
>> AWX ( Ansible Tower )
>>
>> Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) .
>>
>> These are my babies at work.
>>
>> To the group
>>
>> Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said anything
>> about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux.
>>
>> So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the chooses
>> are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now
>> Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using.
>>
>> Good stuff guys, thanks .
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage
>>> approximately 500 systems.  For licensing reasons, I have a separate Uyuni
>>> installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.
>>> I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it!  I don't even
>>> really do much with actually writing Salt states.  I can accomplish most
>>> everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions, then
>>> using the config channels for push configs.
>>> We also use it for push-patching.
>>> Allen B.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allen Beddingfield
>>> Systems Engineer
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> The University of Alabama
>>> Office 205-348-2251
>>> allen at ua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <
>>> ale at ale.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:10 AM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>>> Cc: James Taylor
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re:   [ALE] So the winner is?
>>>
>>> Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?
>>> I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I
>>> never did any set up.
>>> -jt
>>>
>>>
>>> James Taylor
>>> 678-697-9420
>>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>>
>>> That would be my go-to solution as well.  openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a
>>> great setup.  I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allen Beddingfield
>>> Systems Engineer
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> The University of Alabama
>>> Office 205-348-2251
>>> allen at ua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <
>>> ale at ale.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:23 AM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>>> Cc: James Taylor
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale]  [ALE] So the winner is?
>>>
>>> Why not openSUSE Leap?
>>> Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James Taylor
>>> 678-697-9420
>>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>>
>>> I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the
>>> handful of CentOS things we have.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allen Beddingfield
>>> Systems Engineer
>>> Office of Information Technology
>>> The University of Alabama
>>> Office 205-348-2251
>>> allen at ua.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of Chuck Payne via Ale <
>>> ale at ale.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:43 AM
>>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>>> Cc: Chuck Payne
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?
>>>
>>> Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my
>>> home lab that I need to replace.  Thus the subject of my email, who is now
>>> the true CentOS replacement?
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried it?
>>>
>>> I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like to
>>> use something to replace CentOS.
>>>
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