[ale] Wow... Jacktrip or Jamulus KILLS Cisco Router??

neal at mnopltd.com neal at mnopltd.com
Sat Feb 13 14:37:32 EST 2021


I will apologize in advance for not taking some of the advice given on 
our church WAN/LAN regarding making 10.1.10.X see 192.168.x.x.

The stock small business Comcast router setup is what they call "virtual 
bridge mode", meaning no firewall, and being a hybrid voice/data 
configuration any significant changes risks bringing the whole house 
down.  With no support from them to get it back up.

I have the access we need working, retaining our Ubuntu audio server on 
the comcast side, and letting our cisco router act as firewall, and I 
haven't brought down questions about murky security issues. yet.

BUT this has to be one for the record books... Configuration:

Comcast Router <==> Cisco RV180vpn Router <==> 192.168.x.x: Virtual 
Studio/Jambox
+Ubuntu Jack/Jamulus

Comcast router, with Ubuntu server running Jacktrip and Jamulus.  Normal 
Comcast 10.X.X.X network.

Cisco Router providing 192.168.x.x LAN behind it.

Now comes the weird part... outside VS boxes can hit the Jacktrip or 
Jamulus all day, for hours, no problem. JackTrip uses TCP port 4464, and 
UCP 51002-62000.   Jamulus just uses UDP 22124.   Once fired up, these 
are wailing away sending either uncompressed (jacktrip) or compressed 
(Jamulus) audio.

BUT, fire up the VS box on the LAN, connecting to the Jacktrip or 
Jamulus server sitting on the Comcast box, and within 2 hours NOTHING on 
the LAN will be able to get DNS service.   Not immediately, but within 2 
hours.   The Cisco box doesn't fake DNS; it tells clients to hit 
75.75.75.75, or 75.75.76.76, the standard Comcast ports.   The DNS 
failure is visible both in the Cisco router's Diagnostic tools, AND from 
a browser, AND from nslookup on a PC.  The Ubuntu box outside the LAN 
continues to have normal DNS responses.

We can still PING external hosts we have an IP address for.    I was 
able to ping my house router.

This has happened three different days, and in each instance, a simple 
reboot of the Cisco router has resolved it for days.   Until Virtual 
Studio or Jambox is started again.   Today, being Saturday, there was NO 
activity besides me.

And on Sundays, we have been streaming video without incident.

The Cisco RV180VPN is in fact not running latest firmware.  I have 
another coming (I hope) on Ebay and will flash that with latest and try 
it.  Beyond that,  what?   I guess we could buy a brand new router with 
current support...

 From a local PC: nslookup
DNS request timed out.
     timeout was 2 seconds.
Default Server:  UnKnown
Address:  75.75.75.75

> google.com
Server:  UnKnown
Address:  75.75.75.75

DNS request timed out.
     timeout was 2 seconds.
DNS request timed out.
     timeout was 2 seconds.
DNS request timed out.
     timeout was 2 seconds.
DNS request timed out.
     timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to UnKnown timed-out
> 

I also tried nslookup - 75.75.76.76 with identical results.

My wife suggested I should run a traceroute to the DNS server when it's 
working, and then again when it fails.  I should listen to her more 
often.



Neal


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