[ale] What divides Linux Distros?

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Sat Feb 6 11:20:11 EST 2021


Hang on a sec, tying off my arm for another fedora injection....



On February 6, 2021 10:07:37 AM EST, DJ-Pfulio via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>On 2/6/21 2:10 AM, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 20:55:50 -0500
>> Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I LIKE systemd. Best tool yet for getting a ton of crap running on a
>>> huge array of bare metal and virtual. About as complex as tar.
>>>
>>> Some people just can't wrap their head around and bitch nonstop. 
>> 
>> Try runit. Or s6.
>> 
>
>I'm not a fan of systemd, but why would I change distros just for a 
>different init? I'm still waiting for PulseAudio to work and struggle
>to make systemd do what I want beyond pre-installed stuff. I miss the 
>days of init.d/ scripts - at least then I could tell when something 
>would be run. 
>
>And don't get me started about how systemd has screwed the fstab and 
>made running fsck 100x harder by removing the touch /forcefsck 
>capability.
>
>Still, some things aren't worth it to me. There may be hundreds of 
>distros, but in the business world, there are maybe 5. Trying to 
>suggest running anything except one of those 5 is counter productive.
>What do those 5 distros all have in common?  They use systemd and they 
>are the most popular distros.  I'd have just as much luck pushing a 
>BSD desktop - i.e. none.
>
>Sure. I can understand that some people can and will avoid systemd.
>That's great.  Let me know when one of those 5 most-popular distros 
>drops it.
>
>Redhat/IBM giving away RHEL for small needs is both good and bad for 
>Linux. It is sorta like how Microsoft nearly gives away MS-SBS.  As 
>soon as a small company's needs outgrow about 50 users, they are 
>already trapped. Trapped by current skills. Trapped by comfort.  And 
>it will make every school training IT people use RHEL, so all those 
>people will run it at their homes. Brilliant, just like a drug dealer 
>with "the first taste is free" promotions.
>
>IMHO.
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