[ale] Fwd: Voting machines

[Solomon Peachy]

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 06:55:23PM -0500, Bob Toxen via Ale wrote:
> This is done in Florida, where I voted for the first time in November.

I've been voting in FL since 2002, in four different counties.

> Each voter watches the counting machine process.  Maybe even have it
> print out a receipt showing who was voted for the voter to take home.
> Paper ballots should be kept by county for 1-5 years and are the official
> record in case recount or audit.

Reciepts mean nothing; if the machine "lies" in what it counts then it 
can lie on the reciept too.

Only the actual ballot matters.

> Each ballot is sequentially numbered with a digital signature on the
> ballot that is verified by the scanner.  It is tracked which numbered
> ballots went to each precinct and verified during scanning.  That numbered
> ballot should be tracked at each point

I don't recall if there is a unique number printed on the actual ballot 
itself, but the ballot books are definitely numbered and tracked to the 
precinct.  Spoiled ballots are accounted for, and "used ballots" must 
equal "counted+spoiled ballots"; also the number of counted ballots must 
match the number of folks who checked into the precinct.  Once the 
ballot goes into the box, it cannot be removed by the local poll 
workers, and at every step where the ballots (and boxes) are handled, 
multiple observers are present.

> This prevents bogus ballots from being injected, which appears to have 
> happened in the November election.

[Citation needed]

> Obviously track when voter votes, either in person or by mail, to prevent
> multiple voting.

This is already done.

> Of course check for a voter voting in multiple precents in a state

Registration in FL is statewide, and at time of voting your name is 
checked against the list of folks registered for that precinct.  Not on 
the list?  Provisional ballot for you, providing you show the required 
documentation showing you are legally allowed to vote in that precinct.

> Spot checking of paper ballots vs machine counts to detect flaky or
> hacked scanners.

Already the case.

> Picture state or Federal government ID must be provided for registration
> or in person voting or copy of same (or similar solution) for mail-in
> ballots.  Much fraud here.  

Already the case.  Oh, and [citation needed].

> Of course match the voter's voting signature (sign in at poll or outer 
> envelope if mail-in.)  Apparently LOTS of fraud here in November.  

Already the case.  (FFS, the last two elections I had to re-sign my name 
multiple times to make the poll workers happy)

Oh, and [citation needed].

> Claims of voter suppression here is a damn lie.

Once again, [citation needed].

> Sadly massive voter fraud appears to have happened in November but not
> due to hacked machines.  

[citation needed] -- especially as there are now what, 50 court losses 
where they utterly failed to present *any* evidence of fraud, massive or 
otherwise?

(It's funny how being under oath causes one to change their story)

> Disagreements to /dev/null please.

In other words, where this drivel should have gone to begin with.

If you don't want to be called out, don't post BS in a public forum.

 - Solomon
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