[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: No more CentOS as an LTS release

[Brian MacLeod]

One thing about open source.  If a project changes direction and people
aren't happy, then they can go fork themselves.

Project already started over here, named in honor of one of the founders of
CentOS/CaOS.

https://github.com/hpcng/rocky

bnm

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:12 PM Leam Hall via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> I'd not put too much on OEL, my bet is that they will go to something
> less free sooner or later. If you stuff can stay in CentOS 7, might
> want to keep it there for a while.
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:03 PM Beddingfield, Allen via Ale <ale at ale.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Most people I know view it as "free Red Hat without support".  Now the
> free option has been removed for the exact same thing.  I think most of
> those people will peel off to Oracle's free Linux offering, or move over to
> openSUSE Leap or Ubuntu LTS.
> > We are almost 100% a SUSE shop, and to avoid paying for physical server
> licenses, we've started putting openSUSE Leap (it is to SLES what CentOS
> is/was to RHEL) on them.  We just do the blanket virtualization host
> licenses with support for VMs.  We have a few things around that require
> RHEL, which are on CentOS.  I'll be moving them to OEL.
> > Allen B.
> >
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> > Allen Beddingfield
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> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Scott McBrien <smcbrien at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 5:26 PM
> > To: Jim Kinney; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
> > Cc: Beddingfield, Allen
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] No more CentOS as an LTS release
> >
> > Actually this had nothing to do with IBM.  Red Hat, working with the
> CentOS Board had been looking at how to change CentOS Linux for a while.
> Red Hat still operates largely independently of IBM.
> >
> > Red Hat agreed to acquire the CentOS Project because it needed funding
> and structure and a lot of Red Hat product developers, like those working
> on OpenStack, used CentOS Linux because getting RHEL was difficult.  Red
> Hat created the Developer Subscription program, which essentially provides
> developers a zero-cost way of getting a variety of Red Hat products
> including RHEL and OpenShift.
> >
> > Additionally, with CentOS Linux where it’s positioned as a downstream,
> in order to get a problem resolved, one had to get the update included in
> Fedora.  Then convince the RHEL maintainer to pull the update into RHEL,
> then wait for the RHEL release at which time the updated package could be
> built for CentOS Linux.  Or, alternatively, you pulled the source, applied
> your update, then compiled, installed, and maintained this package for the
> duration of your environment.  With stream you can make direct PRs and the
> workflow for merging a change to CentOS Stream is much more sane.  This
> benefits project contributors like Facebook and some National Labs.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> >
> > That certainly tosses sand in the gears. Thank you IBM.
> >
> > Granted most people use centos as an upstream dev setup anyway but the
> loss of a lts release will be a huge mess.
> >
> > On December 8, 2020 3:48:11 PM EST, "Beddingfield, Allen via Ale" <
> ale at ale.org> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like a good time for people to re-evaluate, and move to openSUSE
> Leap (or Ubuntu LTS or OEL if you are into that sort of thing lol)
> >
> >
> https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news/centos-linux-8-will-end-in-2021-and-shifts-focus-to-centos-stream/
> >
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