[ale] DIY NAS vs Boxed NAS?

Mon Dec 3 12:48:10 EST 2018

Hmm. That $annual$ difference is in the range I spend monthly on beer
:-)
Not that there's anything relating the two other than "ale".
Just Sayin'
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 09:06 -0800, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
> I'm currently paying $0.12/kWh for my usage tier not including taxes
> andsurcharges.  I'm fortunately still in the middle of the tier
> otherwiseit would be $0.21/kWh.  Each Watt adds up to about $1.50 per
> year. sothe difference between a system running 100 W and one running
> 50 W doesmake a difference especially for a 24/7 machine.
> On 2018-12-03 03:15, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
> The loudest part of my NAS is the external array and it is quieter
> thanboth other computers on the same rack.  Maybe I'm getting old,
> but if Idon't see the power light on the front of the device, I don't
> hear it.The computer does have a "Bronze" PSU from Seasonic that was
> a deal atthe time. 5 internal disks and 5 externals.Be certain to
> label the HDD WWN where you can read it before swappingfailed
> disks.  SMART header data will show it.
> Using less watts is good for lots of reasons, but saving $5/yr
> doesn'tmake it worth spending $100 more on the solution for me. Run
> the actualcost comparison with your real electrical costs is all I'm
> saying.
> iXsystems is a long-time sponsor of SELF. Over the years, they
> probablygave a few talks about their systems. They do go out of their
> way tokeep the FreeNAS project FLOSS. I wouldn't have any concerns
> over theircorporate support of the project.
> On 12/3/18 1:44 AM, Phil Turmel via Ale wrote:
> Ah, yes.  Forgot about your low-noise requirement.  That wasn't one
> ofmy concerns for that system.  It's mounted in the ceiling of
> thebasement, under the wall supporting the big screen in the family
> room.Out of earshot.  Small and low-power were my only major
> criteria.
> I still think you'd do well with an iTX mobo, even in a larger
> case.Lots of ATX and EATX cases will have the mobo support points for
> iTX, too.
> On 12/2/18 6:05 PM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
> That case is guaranteed not to be quiet.  The power supply fans are
> toosmall.  I'd be looking for a case that could be populated with
> verylarge diameter (like 120 mm) low RPM fans to keep the whole thing
> assilent as possible.  My current daily driver computer has three 120
> mmfans running at around 500 RPM or less, one on the oversize CPU
> heatpipe cooler/radiator, another on the drive cage and the one in
> the powersupply.  All of this is in a mid-tower case.  I almost never
> hear themachine even with three hard drives installed unless I put my
> ear upnext to it.  That's the kind of thing I want for the NAS as
> well sincethey'll be in the same room, big fans, nearly silent (hence
> using 5400RPM drives).  The case doesn't have to be small, I have
> plenty ofphysical space for a big tower.  I just need low power, near
> silence,and the extra-nice-but-can-skip-if-alternative-exists
> individualindicators for drive activity/health.
> On 2018-12-02 10:52, Phil Turmel via Ale wrote:
> You can put something like that together yourself from a wide
> selectionof iTX mobos.  Cheap and power-efficient.  I ran one like
> that forseveral years in a 1U 4-bay hot-swap case.  In that one, I
> populated thesingle PCIe slot with a decent radeon graphics card for
> MythTV, but suchcould have easily been an LSI SAS controller in a
> bigger box.
> It was this enclosure:
> 
http://www.idotpc.com/thestore/pc/ITS-1916H-1U-ITX-4-Front-Load-Hot-Swappable-Drives-Rackmount-Case-and-Bare-bone-Unit-p1114.htm
> On 12/1/18 10:30 PM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
> A fun revelation: I went to FreeNAS's website to look at the
> softwareand apparently iXsystems sells a "home" server ready to
> go.  So they'reyet another boxed NAS source in addition to being the
> OS of choice forDIY.  A hybrid of the two options.  The case is nice,
> though, and hasactivity/status indicators for each drive, which seems
> to be somethinghard to find with ordinary cases.  They're using a
> fanless motherboardso there's at least a little noise
> reduction.  Looks like possibly anAtom as they're quoting only 17
> Watts TDP and 80 Watts total whenpopulated with eight drives.  The
> empty four bay is $1k and the eightbay is $1,350.
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