[ale] please bow your head for a moment of silence...

[James Sumners]

Meanwhile...
https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SystemdUbuntuRebootFailure

"We just went through a periodic exercise of rebooting all of our
<https://support.cs.toronto.edu/> Ubuntu servers in order to get up to date
on kernels and so on. By now almost all of our servers are running Ubuntu
16.04, which means that they're using systemd. Unfortunately this gives us
a real problem, because *on Ubuntu 16.04, systemd won't reliably reboot
your system*. On some servers, usually the busiest and most important ones,
the system will just stop during the shutdown process and sit there. And
sit there. And sit there. Perhaps it would eventually recover after tens of
minutes, but as mentioned these are generally our busiest and most
important servers, so we're not exactly going to let them sit there to find
out what happens eventually."

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:

> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
>
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:29 +0000, Lightner, Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Caveman conversation:
> Ug:  What that?
> Zog:  Wheel.
> Ug:  Why wheel?  Drag work for years.
> Zog: More fast to use wheel.
> Ug: Wheel made by false god to trap draggers.  It bad.
> Ug then clubs Zog because Zog doesn't see the intrinsic "reason" of Ug's opinion.
>
>
> Move ahead 10,000 years:
> Ug:  What that?
> Zog:  Systemd.
> Ug: Why systemd.  Init work for years...
>
> :p
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org <ale-bounces at ale.org>] On Behalf Of Steve Litt
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:47 AM
> To: ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] please bow your head for a moment of silence...
>
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 07:53:36 -0400
> leam hall <leamhall at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Given the Linux adoption of systemd the only options seem to be
> "Winderz with a GUI", "Winderz with a command line", "Expensive
> Fruit", or some flavor of BSD.
>
>
>
> That being said, several Linux distros don't use systemd and are committed to not using systemd:
>
> * Devuan
> * Void
> * Funtoo
>
> There are probably seven or eight more that currently don't use systemd, or don't use it by default, but have not foresworn the possibility.
>
> Except for those who "simply must" have their Gnome, KDE or NetworkManager, there are plenty of Linux systems out there they can run without systemd.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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