[ale] Secure Family Comms

Thu Mar 23 11:08:29 EDT 2017

My weirdness with Signal is it's willingness to notify me when a
contact from Google has started using signal.
On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 10:58 -0400, Charles Shapiro wrote:
> I had a Bad Experience with Signal.  It apparently auto-syncs your
> contact list with Google. That means that any un-synced contacts on
> your phone will vanish.  My contact list went from 600 to 30 in a
> matter of minutes.  Not Fun.
> 
> Of course, if you don't sync your contacts to Google, you take
> responsibility for backing them up.  So it was more a minor annoyance
> than a hair on fire problem.
> 
> -- CHS
> 
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Dustin Strickland <dustin.h.strickl
> and at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Signal bring compromised isn't even a question. WL just put out
> > documents that show the CIA's capability to foil the encryption on
> > all secure messaging services for mobile. They use os-level
> > exploits and intercept communications before they're encrypted by
> > the app. I no longer go out of my way to protect my privacy because
> > it just doesn't help. They've ruined cyber security.
> > On Mar 23, 2017 10:00 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
> > > Signal is a huge target. I have ZERO doubt that all that traffic
> > > is
> > > 
> > > being captured for later decryption. A weakness WILL BE FOUND and
> > > 
> > > exploited, if not in the program, in the OS hosting it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you are a dissident group trying to alter a government, might
> > > want to
> > > 
> > > keep looking for a less popular solution. Use a little trade-
> > > craft in
> > > 
> > > your OpSec.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I believe that a false sense of security is worse than believing
> > > 
> > > everything is non-secure, and acting appropriately.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But if you are sharing secret family recipes, it is probably good
> > > 
> > > enough.  The more traffic on the internet that is encrypted, the
> > > better.
> > > 
> > > Easier to hide a raindrop in a rainstorm than hiding a single
> > > balloon on
> > > 
> > > a sunny day.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Don't believe all the marketing hype - even the stuff I quoted
> > > below
> > > 
> > > about retroshare.  Do some packet sniffing. See what leaks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For example, how many people are/were using Lastpass? How many
> > > leaked
> > > 
> > > credentials got out due to the latest flaw with FF/chrome
> > > plugins. An
> > > 
> > > online password manager just seems foolish to me.  I prefer my
> > > password
> > > 
> > > manager NOT to having any network code.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 03/23/2017 09:21 AM, Ted W. wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If all you want is a way to securely communicate with family
> > > use Signal.
> > > 
> > > > It's not for email but it makes a great Apple Messages
> > > replacement. My
> > > 
> > > > wife and I now use it since I moved off iOS and back to
> > > Android. It's
> > > 
> > > > about a simple as it can get for this sort of thing.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > -Ted
> > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:31:34PM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> On 03/22/2017 02:00 PM, Alex Carver wrote:
> > > 
> > > >>> I want to see something that is easy for my parents to use.
> > > 
> > > >>
> > > 
> > > >> Might be worth looking at RestroShare.
> > > 
> > > >>
> > > 
> > > >> http://retroshare.net/
> > > 
> > > >> "Retroshare creates encrypted connections to your friends.
> > > Nobody can
> > > 
> > > >> spy on you. Retroshare is completely decentralized. This means
> > > there are
> > > 
> > > >> no central servers. It is entirely Open-Source and free. There
> > > are no
> > > 
> > > >> costs, no ads and no Terms of Service."
> > > 
> > > >>
> > > 
> > > >>
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