[ale] systemd bad. Very bad.
Jeff Hubbs
jhubbslist at att.net
Thu Jun 29 16:11:41 EDT 2017
There's a certain issue of passing/failing the "ho-ho test:" if systemd
were intrinsically, deeply, intransigently flawed, why would it be
getting implemented across distributions that have completely
independent management bodies? It's even supported as an alternative
init system (one of five) for Gentoo (where I live my life).
On 6/29/17 3:58 PM, Lightner, Jeffrey wrote:
> The premise of your original post was flawed in that it seemed to imply that DNS without systemd (or even other utilities) don't sometimes have exploits that need to be addressed.
>
> Suggesting that a component of systemd MIGHT be exploited and that makes systemd a bad idea seems silly as hell to me. I've patched BIND on multiple occasions and or having to change named.conf for to prevent various exploits long before systemd was a gleam in anyone's eye.
>
> Based on your logic, no one should use OpenSSL because it was once vulnerable to Heartbleed...
>
> If you don't like systemd that is fine but using this as your reasoning is a bit off in my not so humble opinion.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Joey Kelly
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:51 PM
> To: Ale at ale.org
> Subject: Re: [ale] systemd bad. Very bad.
>
>
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 01:25:31PM -0500, Joey Kelly wrote:
>>> One more in a long list of reasons why systemd is a horrible and
>>> risky
>>> proposition: putting DNS resolution in your init system:
>> You're right; putting DNS resolution into your init system is a
>> horrible idea. Fortunately, no init systems -- systemd included -- do that.
>>
>> You have a lot more to learn.
>>
>> - Solomon
> systemd claims to be an init system. systemd-resolved is part of systemd.
> I guess I do have a lot more to learn.
>
>
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